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I'm looking for reliable references...

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(Spanish or other non-English language is fine)

  • To confirm that the Caribbean School of Medical Sciences was for Francophone Caribbean (esp. Haitian) and African students only as asserted by this unreliable source:[1]. Or alternatively, persuade me why this amateurish website which has an anonymous postal box contact address and no named staff and anonymous web host registration is a reliable resource.[2]

Also now that this School is part of ELAM, is it still Francophone and still intended only for Haitians/Africans etc? Are there English language medical schools or other schools that have been incorporated into ELAM?

  • To indicate whether the Venezuelan ELAM has actually opened or if not, what's happening. Someone with far better Spanish than me take a look at their official website - as far as I can tell, its still seems to be in "this stuff is being constructed" stage. And I can't find news sources (admittedly I was focussed on the Cuba original school anyway) indicating this school has actually opened
  • Reliable source for VIP attendees (heads of state or government chief executives or other representatives) of the inauguration ceremony

Bwithh 18:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also - GFDL compatible pics would be great.... Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 07:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Recent Revert

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I just reverted a large amount of content and changes made by a Single Purpose Account. While the SPA edit was well-intentioned, all the content added was completely unreferenced & unverified and some of it had POV tones (the new content was in the style of a college brochure (e.g. an unreferenced semester-by-semester course listing), not an encyclopedia). In addition, the SPA editor removed other content which disrupted the articles' footnotes, leaving several established references blanked. If the SPA editor can come up with relevant material which is solidly referenced, NPOV and written in an encyclopedic style, please add this while avoiding disrupting existing material without good reason. While this is how all editors should act, SPAs with an interest in one specific topic or article should take special care to try to edit in this manner, given potential conflict of interest concerns. thanks 128.125.52.116 00:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Further notes on Recent Revert

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I just noticed that among the well-referenced material removed by the SPA editor (and then reverted by me) was the entire subsection about cooperation with Venezuela over the creation of a sister school in that country as well as a referenced and I believe NPOV part that mentioned that the politics of Cuba is taught as the part of the curriculum though Cuban officials deny there is any politicization intent. No reason was given for these removals. If the SPA editor has a good argument for removing these parts, they should submit it for discussion here first. 128.125.52.116 00:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The removal of the Venezuela section also resulted in the deletion of the Venezuean ELAM logo by a bot. Great! Now I have to go and find it again, relog in, and upload it. 128.125.52.116 00:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Grrrr.... not exactly auspicious circumstances in which to log back into wikipedia Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 00:47, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, good for answers.com, they've saved the logo picture. Bwithh Join Up! See the World! 00:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:ELAMVlogo.png

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BetacommandBot 07:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Elamlogo.gif

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Image:Elamlogo.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 21:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Large removal

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I removed a fairly large chunk of the article. I did this because it was entirely unsourced and the reliability had been questioned [3] [4]. I am not familiar with the subject, so, I may have removed too much or too little. If anyone thinks that either of these are the case, I won't object to any edits to correct it, but if the sections are replaced, I think they should be fairly well-sourced. Apparition11 Complaints/Mistakes 00:11, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Typo?

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Is caretery the right word here? "The diet in the caretery mainly consists of rice..." Stars4change (talk) 04:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After graduation?

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Does anyone have information about what is required of the medical students after graduating? I've been told they have to serve in Cuba for a certain number of years but this article doesn't seem to mention that. Wingedbeaver (talk) 20:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

International ELAM candidates are chosen considering their commitment to work in underserved communities. They make a good faith agreement to return to their home countries and help those with the least access to healthcare. Fitzrebecca (talk) 13:46, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am an ELAM grad. We are not expected to remain in Cuba. The purpose of the medical school is to improve world health and access to healthcare so keeping international graduates would undermine the project. Cuba wants international grads back home helping those with the least access, contrasted to foreign aid workers unfamiliar with customs and immediate local need.

Throughout the 6 year education, medical students are involved in all arenas of participating in the Cuban healthcare system, so in essence they have already served Cuba. Fitzrebecca (talk) 14:05, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fitzrebecca. It would be great if you could provide independent sources that could be cited in the article, so we may add this information. Thank you for your contribution.MedGME (talk) 14:22, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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NEJM articles

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One of the links to a New England Journal of Medicine article is a dead link. Here's the working link, with another article from the NEJM on ELAM. (I think they're free links.) I haven't done a proper literature search in the peer-reviewed medical journals for ELAM, so if anyone wants to beat me to it, please do.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1608859
Perspective
The United States and Cuba — Turning Enemies into Partners for Health
C. William Keck, M.D., M.P.H.
October 20, 2016
N Engl J Med 2016; 375:1507-1509
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMp1608859

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp048270
Perspective
Affirmative Action, Cuban Style
Fitzhugh Mullan, M.D.
December 23, 2004
N Engl J Med 2004; 351:2680-2682
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMp048270

--Nbauman (talk) 16:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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