Talk:Last Night (2010 film)/Archive 1
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[edit]CC-BY-SA declaration; following text copied from the article by me; I'm leaving it here in case I mess up any references. Baffle gab1978 07:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Plot
[edit]During a 36-hour period,[1][2]
- ^ "Last Night (2010)". iTunes Store. Retrieved October 25, 2018.
- ^ "Movies of the Weekend". Vogue Italia. November 5, 2010. Retrieved October 25, 2018.
- Thank you. I am uncertain if the time period is needed in the "Plot" section, but I put it in with two citations just in case. I understand if you think it is unnecessary. Aoba47 (talk) 22:45, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- No worries. I think readers will understand from the context that the story takes place in a limited time-frame; we don't need to be told that explicitly. The removal doesn't appear to have broken any references. I'm not sure the iTunes store counts as a reliable source, and the Vogue Italy source looks like a deadlink. Good luck with the article. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 19:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the response, and that makes sense to me. Aoba47 (talk) 21:25, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- No worries. I think readers will understand from the context that the story takes place in a limited time-frame; we don't need to be told that explicitly. The removal doesn't appear to have broken any references. I'm not sure the iTunes store counts as a reliable source, and the Vogue Italy source looks like a deadlink. Good luck with the article. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 19:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
"Last Night (2009 film)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Last Night (2009 film). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Aoba47 (talk) 20:37, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
"So Long, Lonesome"
[edit]In the following edit, I have removed information about how the film features the song "So Long, Lonesome". This information does require a third-party, reliable source to show that it is notable for inclusion in the article, and citing the film as a primary source is not enough to demonstrate this. Also, IMDb is not a reliable source to use on Wikipedia so I would avoid using it on here in the future. I'd love to add information about this song to the article, but I could not find any sources that cover this during a web search. It's a shame really. Aoba47 (talk) 23:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Where do I even begin? People come to movie pages on Wikipedia to find out what music they heard during the movie, among many other reasons. The track in question is used prominently during the movie and is listed in the credits of the film: <https://i.imgur.com/AUERsSq.jpg>. That is an absolutely valid source no matter you feel about it personally. Furthermore, it is a song which could easily be mistaken for part of Clint Mansell's score, and the distinction deserves to be remarked. Your personal opinion about the importance of any of this information is irrelevant. Moreover, your comments on citing IMDB are simply not accurate: Wikipedia's own reference on citing IMDB <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_IMDb> includes a list of "Inappropriate Uses" -- you will notice soundtrack songs DO NOT fall under that category. There is no reason to believe that any other website besides IMDB would list all the tracks from a given movie's soundtrack, so effectively insisting on a journalistic source for a track list is literally absurd, which is probably why imaginary rules you are attempting to enforce are completely ignored by most Wikipedia articles, e.g. the list of songs by Explosions In The Sky "in popular culture": <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosions_in_the_Sky#In_popular_culture> Stop removing relevant and helpful information from this article based on your own personal preferences. You are not being constructive. I am new to contributing to Wikipedia and despite the effort I made to cite things properly you have repeatedly made this an unwelcoming experience.
- After an agonizing search I found a new source, so hopefully you can live with this, because if you keep deleting the soundtrack addendum I am going to lose it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldenTribe (talk • contribs) 19:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- First, I encourage you to assume good faith. I am going by Wikipedia policy, not my personal opinion or "imaginary rules" as you have erroneously claimed multiple times. I have tried to be as collaborative as possible, which is the reason why I have started this discussion in the first place. I fail to see how I have made "an unwelcoming experience". If anything, you have personalized this by making negative remarks on my character, which is something that I have never done to you. Calling me "some pedant kept freaking out about" is unnecessarily combative.
- Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Without a reliable, third-party source, mentioning that this particular song is played in this film is rather trivial. I had found the DVDizzy.com source while looking for information on this song, and I do not see how it meets the reliable sources criteria. For instance, it does not have any indication of any editorial oversight. As for the Explosions in the Sky article, trivia sections are discouraged per this policy (and that is a separate matter anyway).
- For these reasons, I encourage you to find a better source for "So Long, Lonesome" or remove it altogether. I am glad that you are editing on Wikipedia, and as I have already stated above, I would love to have information on this song in the article. But, without a reliable, third-party source, it seems too trivial for inclusion. Aoba47 (talk) 21:00, 6 July 2020 (UTC)