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I leave these comments for posterity as a reference to the logic used whilst uploading the Parishes of New South Wales. Briefly, from about 1825 New South Wales was divided into 141 Counties and these Counties in turn were subdivided into a total of 7,459 Parishes. The parishes have a great deal of historical value and some relevance to modern property law.

Towards the end view of adding this information to Wiki, User:Astrokey44 and I, have been working on getting all of those parishes posted up to each of their corresponding counties. This has been a somewhat complex task of sorting through vast electronic reference material, linking the data to current Wiki articles on the location of each parish in relation to its placement within a Local Government Area and setting up map coordinates to be a live functioning pointer to a spot within each individual parish location. Each of the Counties overleaf will have this data in the form of a table once this task is completed.

Importantly now that all data has been collected (even though about 3,600 or so are still be posted) and been analysed I can see that we will have probably just over 99% of the parishes identified - but there will be about 50 (probably less)that can not at this stage be located or have gone 'missing' altogether. A few of those 50 parishes are established by name but their is no current knowledge of their location within the county - these are marked as unknown in the coordinate column. Finally some of the total list of parishes are so remote in terms of human population (there being none or almost none) that they are not incorporated within a Local Government Area at this time - where this occurs these are marked as unincorporated in the LGA column.--VS talk 12:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if the 7,459 figure includes the former parishes in Murray and Cowley which are now part of the ACT? perhaps these are some of the 50 that are missing --Astrokey44 03:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are areas of NSW that are also parishless - There is a large area of the County of Parry that has no Parish (it is a former part of the AACo allotment west of Tamworth --bacco007 13:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)13:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My initial count in searching data showed 7798 Parishes in total which is 339 over - but then when I looked through the whole list and starting putting them all into correct LGA's etc I sorted a number of doubles (missing a couple as you have seen). Could be that some are from Cowley and Murray. I get the distinct impression the Parish was named etc but the exact data for it is lost even to the Geographical Names Board of NSW - especially for some of the more remote areas where I do not think anything ever eventuated after the Parish was named.--VS talk

Its amazing they even bothered making parishes out there in the far west. I notice that the maps of the individual parishes are only for the eastern and central divisions - none for the west. Also you could link the unincorporateds to Unincorporated Far West Region? I'd better get back to making boxes for them - ive left the excruciatingly boring western counties till last --Astrokey44 01:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Districts

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There are so many types of districts that were used! Firstly dont get confused with the State Electoral Districts. Then there are police districts (this 1859 map shows both electoral and police districts. Also there are "squatting districts" on an 1844 map - I think the squatting and/or police districts may be the same as the land districts but I'm not sure. Besides this, the districts used appear to be:

  1. Districts used pre-1834; small subdivisions of the county, replaced in 1834(?) when the parishes were formally proclaimed. see Image:Sydney districts 1824.jpg
  2. 1834-1861: c.9 districts used on the area outside the Nineteen Counties - these might be the "squatting districts" (1850 map)
  3. 1861-1884: c.13 districts - although mostly the same, there are some new ones such as Albert in the far west and Gwydir in the north (1871 map calls them pastoral districts)
  4. 1884- The c.100 land districts, which from then on appear on most cadastral maps --Astrokey44 12:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Format

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They might be better off at County of Foo, New South Wales rather than Foo County, New South Wales. This is the more usual way to refer to them. The first article was County of Cumberland which was moved on the 15th july 2005 to Cumberland County, New South Wales [1] with the comment that this was the standard wiki conventions for county articles. But this would surely be referring to American counties. --Astrokey44 09:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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