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Colonial America

The article previous referred only to the Virginia Colony which is misleading. Other colonies, such as Maryland also granded patents. Here is an example: Baltz, Shirley Vlasak (1984). A Chronicle of Belair. Bowie, Maryland: Bowie Heritage Committee. pp. pages 1-6. LCCN 85165028. {{cite book}}: |pages= has extra text (help) Toddstreat1 15:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevant

Moving irrelevant info on planting and seating (which has nothing to do with land grants) to talk.

Please note that planting and seating in an English garden also means a particular type of landscaping used in formal gardens and streetscape parks. ^[1]

Toddstreat1 15:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ See, e.g., CABE case studies of Urban design, City of London urban design web pages, andCross River Partnership web site

Depreciation land grants and miscellaneous

American Revolutionary War veterans were given depreciation land grants in lieu of cash payments because the currency was fluctuating so badly under the Articles of Confederation. I've seen them discussed in context of land speculation in western Pennsylvania after the war, but I don't know if they have a wider application. The two hits on Google for the term both involve grants in western PA. It would be nice to include a discussion of this in this article. Maybe a revolutionary war buff has the story?

I recommend removing the geographic subsections to this article and instead having a history section broken down into chronological epochs, like Roman era, European era, etc. The European era would look at the Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, and British for planting and colonization activities. The article already mentions Spanish land grants issued in Florida. My wife's ancestors received land grants from Britain in what would later become Pasquotank County, North Carolina. You might also look for land grants from the British issued to planters in Ireland, Africa, and Asia.

There could be a definitional section, too. It would provide more details on the issuance of land grants. For example, land grants were issued to nobles, but also to ship's captains. I've read about sea captains receiving a particular amount of land per voyage across the Atlantic. Some discussion of how people earned these grants and what rights they granted their bearers might be a useful addition.

Someone with a grip on world history and culture beyond western Europe might know something of land grants by other governments seeking to plant territories. Maybe in ancient China or India, for example? I must admit I know little of that area. --Pat (talk) 18:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil

Brazil / Portuguese new world grants should also be added.

"grants along the coast of 20 to 50 square miles of land were common" in colonial Brazil in the 1600s.

source: A History of Brazil By E. Bradford Burns, p26 Columbia University Press, 1993

69.203.83.137 (talk) 15:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bahamas

I don't have time to work on this article but this page and also here document land grants in the Bahama Islands from 1787 to 1858. I believe the practice continues today but we'd need sources for that. --Marc Kupper|talk 23:07, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

railroads & the U.S. Land Grant Act of 1850

This new book looks like a likely place to find a citation related to how U.S. railroads were impacted by the land grant. Railroads and American Political Development: Infrastructure, Federalism, and State Building by Zachary Callen, University Press of Kansas, 2016. "Focuses on the Land Grant Act of 1850 in a study of the federal role in building America's rail system, and, in turn, how the railroads expanded the power of the national government" per Chronicle weekly book list. Also great if somebody wants to write Land Grant Act of 1850. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 18:55, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Spanish land grants

We need an article at Spanish land grants or some such, at very least a WP:SUMMARY section at Land grant. There used to be a Land grant#Latin America (or similar) section here, but it's gone missing. We seem to have just completely lost almost all our info on Spanish land grants in the Americas (other than some tidbits at Spanish land grants in New Mexico, which is misnamed as it also covers Mexican and US grants there). Spanish land grants are a very significant part of Spanish New World colonial history. (Short version: seize land from indigenous people by force, then have it colonized by Spaniards and New World higher-caste mixed Spanish, by giving the land to families of second and later sons who needed opportunities and somewhere to go, having no inheritance under Spanish primogeniture. It's now New Spain operated.) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:07, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SMcCandlish I'm not seeing where Land grant ever had such a section as you mention. We seem to cover Spanish colonial land grants only for territories now within the US. If you can point me at some sources I'll have a go at creating a section on Latin America next month: Noyster (talk), 12:10, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I didn't look into the page history, I just encountered a link to Land grant#Latin America (or something very similar) in another article and found that there wasn't a corresponding section. There should surely be one. The Spanish land-grant system and the class structures it enforced (and effectively still does today – Google "Spanish land rights Latin America") spread as far as the Philippines. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:21, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] See, e.g., CABE case studies of Urban design, City of London urban design web pages, andCross River Partnership web site

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