Talk:Land/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Praseodymium-141 (talk · contribs) 16:50, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

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Article seems fine at a glance. However, I will need to take a closer look before deciding whether to pass or fail. ¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 16:50, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   See below.

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   Mostly good. Just checking:

   • Is Online Etymolgy Dictionary a reliable source?
     • No consensus from this 2020 RSN discussion. The author might arguably be a WP:SME. It apparently compiles and interperets various sources. See also Online Etymology Dictionary. I think its up to you. If you still think it unreliable, I'll remove it and try to find an alternative. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 22:39, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
   • Is ref 123 (in Finnish) reliable?
   • Is ref 116 (in Russian) reliable?

   Also add citation where it says citation needed in the section Trade.¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 09:18, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

   Formation section is probably too long.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   See below.

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Comments

Images

Many of these images seem to be decorative. See:

• Mount Fuji in section Terrain
• Clouds above Djibouti, Eritrea, Somalia and Yemen in section climate
• Kukenán-tepui mesa in Mountains and plateaus (it doesn't talk about mesas at all)
• Safed in culture
• A train in travel
• Checkerboarding in land use

Feel free to tell me how they are related to the sections and are not just decorations.¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 08:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Lead

• Land terrain varies greatly, consisting of mountains, deserts, plains, plateaus, glaciers, and other landforms. - add the at the start of sentence.
• Land is commonly defined as the solid, dry surface of Earth. - add the at the start of sentence.
• the shoreline is defined as the area where dry land meets any body of water. - seems to contradict with the definition in the coast article.

Etymology

• Is the second paragraph related to the etymology of land?

Physical science

• This section is quite long and probably goes into to much detail on the formation, and maybe geomorphology of the land.
• Formation is mostly talking more about the Earth than the land.
• Terrain refers to an area of land and its features, or landforms. - I don't know, but I feel as though the at the start of the sentence reads better.
• Terrain seems to be filled with definitions.
• More definitions in geomorphology.

Features

• The area where land meets the ocean or another large body of water like a lake is called a coast or, alternatively, a "coastline". - same thing as with the lead.
• The line of mountains in a mountain range are usually formed from the same orogeny events, and their study is important to historical geology. - add ref.

Life science

• Check whether ref 122 references everything before it. Otherwise, add some refs in that desert bullet point.
• ref 127 - page needed.

Environmental issues

• More refs needed near the start of subsection biodiversity loss.

Overall

Article seems fine, will pass if issues above are fixed. ¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 20:17, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

@Cdjp1: All the issues raised are above, I will give you a while to work on these. As stated above, I will pass this if issues are fixed. ¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 20:19, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

@CactiStaccingCrane:, @DMT Biscuit:, @Helloheart:, @MRN2electricboogaloo:, @DFlhb:, @PerfectSoundWhatever:, @OliveYouBean:, @Spinixster:. See above for issues that need to be resolved for GA status. I have already found the pages for ref 127, and adjusted the pictures of Mt Fuji and Safed to more relevant ones. --Cdjp1 (talk) 09:56, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

This article is NOT a good article. I feel that there's a sense of vagueness and the lack of actual detail here. For example, Land#Features have a very unscientific way of grouping terrestrial features together. There's too much focus on the human stuff and not enough focus on the animal/plant stuff. Also, there's no talk about extraterrestrial surfaces, which for solid planets such as Mars they can also be called as "land". CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 11:25, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll put this article on hold, and will fail this article if the issues not fixed on 1st May. ¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 07:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll try to fix some of these. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 22:39, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Helped with a few, but I have to agree that the article isn't GA material yet; hadn't realized how much work still remained DFlhb (talk) 22:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Article has potential, but currently not up to GA standard, so I'll fail this article. ¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 07:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.