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"Macedonians and Greeks"

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The article, indirectly, keeps calling the Macedonians non Greeks, since it doesn't include them in the Greeks, which is completely biased and not historically correct. I don't know why, but Wikipedia has this obsession to make the Macedonians non Greeks and to give the Macedonia identity to Slavic people. Please have some dignity. There are people out there who know history. Onoufrios d (talk) 22:14, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What you are referring to is a separate issue from how historians distinguish between the classical Greek people of 'mainland' Greece and their Macedonian cousins to the north, who spoke a Greek dialect that was considered barbarous by the southern Greeks of antiquity. There was enmity between the classical Greek peoples and their Macedonian conquerors that lasted for centuries - right up through the Roman conquests. Don't get too wound up over this. -HammerFilmFan
By the time I read this article (i.e. the date of this post), the only remaining text to which the complaint could seem to apply is "disband the Greek alliance against Macedonia". If that were to be changed to "disband the alliance of anti-Macedonian Greeks against Macedonia", then I think maybe all of the distinction between "Macedonians" and "Greeks" (which would imply that Macedonians weren't Greeks) would be rectified.2600:8804:8800:11F:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 07:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson[reply]


Math question on status of women

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As of the date of this post the article contains the text ", whereby only the 9,000 richest citizens were left in exclusive possession of the city.[10] The 12,000 poorest men, or 60% of the entire citizenship, were permanently exiled". If the 12,000 poorest men were 60% of the population, then 1/6th of that (2,000 men) is 10% of the population, and ten times that (100%) would be20,000 men. Of 20,000 men, if 12,000 were exiled, that leaves 8,000 men. So if the 9,000 richest citizens remained, 1,000 of them were women, right? Only 8,000 MEN were left, and 8,000 MEN can't be the same as "the 9,000 richest citizens". Well, that's fine if the 9,000 richest citizens included 1,000 women, but my understanding of life in ancient Greece is that only in Sparta could women become wealthy.2600:8804:8800:11F:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 07:43, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson[reply]