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Article is full of OR

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This article is full of original research and fallacious conclusions. Contrast it with the French version -- which is very well done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.215.149.97 (talk) 14:38, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As the main author of this article, I reject your unilateral and arbitrary gutting of this article, and have restored the text you removed. You should not remove text without first achieving a consensus for such removal on the Talk page. The fact that you consider text "speculative" or "fallacious" is irrelevant, providing that text is properly sourced. It is sourced, to heavyweight authors such as Jones, Elton, Goldsworthy and to the Notitia Dignitatum itself. Your preference for the French article is also irrelevant, and absurd, since the French article is much less detailed and fails to consider key issues. And get yourself a Username if you want to be taken seriously as an editor. EraNavigator (talk) 14:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Laeti and foederati

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I'm not a historian and from what is written about laeti and foederati on wikipedia it's quite hard for me to understand any difference between these two notions. Perhaps it would be useful for someone competent to explain the difference if there is known one (personal freedom???) VeNoo (talk) 04:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the article. It's stated "sources mention laeti only from the late 3rd and 4th centuries" - so there are no evidences of them before, despite policy to naturalize barbarian tribes settling them inside did existed? Does the name laeti refer to the status of the naturalized foreigner(tribe) or the tribe? Could it be tribes were serving as limitanei on the forts outside border as f.e. GERULATA fort. After completion of service they were accepted inside of the empire and contributed recruits. Does all federati becomes laeti after service? Or laeti refers to the specific f.e. Sarmatian tribe accepted to live in the empire? Norvila (talk) 23:00, 8 April 2015 (UTC+3)

Laeti - word origin

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I'm not a professional but an amateur historian with an interest in the field. The article mentions that Laeti are not mentioned anywhere in the Eastern Empire.

Could "laeti" just be the Proto-Germanic word for "people"? Ie. modern German "Leute". Perhaps it is just the local (German) word for Foederati? The German vernacular would've had their own word to refer to themselves outside of the Latin Foederati.

Considering the barbarians on the borders of the Western Empire were mostly all Germanic (outside of Britannia), this would explain its use there, but not necessarily in the East with its mixture of tribes of different language groups. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.61.210.25 (talk) 21:41, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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