Talk:LMS Royal Scot Class 6100 Royal Scot

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Strange language

It's nonsense to me, but does this make some train-language sense?: "It was painted in LMS crimson lake livery which, although the original livery received, the locomotive did not carry after being rebuilt"? Myrvin (talk) 09:40, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it's trying to say that the livery which has been applied following preservation is not one which was carried in service.

The "Royal Scot" class were built at a time when all LMS express passenger locos were painted crimson lake; but by the time that rebuilding commenced (1943) the LMS was painting all locomotives plain black. After the War, some express passenger locos were lined out, but the base colour remained black. BR liveries were trialled from 1948 and generally introduced in 1949, and although some locos were painted in the old LMS crimson lake colour from 1956, these did not include any "Royal Scots".

No. 6100 was rebuilt in 1950, by which time BR green (the old GWR colour) was standard for this class. See

James, Fred; Hunt, David; Essery, R.J. (1999). LMS Locomotive Profiles, no. 1 - The Rebuilt 'Royal Scots'. Didcot: Wild Swan. pp. 48–53. ISBN 1-874103-49-6. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Since no "Royal Scot" was painted crimson lake in BR service at any time following rebuilding (they were all black under the LMS; black or green under BR), it can be said that LMS crimson lake is a non-authentic livery for any locomotive of this class. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:45, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]