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[edit]recent contributions to the article seem to have a lot of kurdophobic language and prejudiced generalisations and tropes about kurdish residents, i hope that there would be an overhaul to mitigate the politicized angle of the article. 41.143.211.98 (talk) 19:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Would you suggest reverting the article back to the revision before the recent major overhaul of the article on June 24 to 28? Kaze757 (talk) 18:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kaze757 I'd advocate for undoing the revisions of AIMOF. For others reading, see Talk:Kantō Massacre. I'm highly skeptical of the contributions of AIMOF, who recently translated portions of the Japanese article. Their edits consistently lean negative towards the Kurdish people in this article, and they cite right-wing nationalist papers like Sankei Shimbun for controversial facts. To me, they have no credibility; too overtly nationalist to trust. seefooddiet (talk) 17:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed some paragraphs added by AIMOF. AIMOF translated a large amount of low-quality text from the Japanese Wikipedia, which unfairly and consistently portrays Kurds in Japan in a negative light. This includes generalizations about Kurds and selective source choices that support a biased view while covertly omitting a sourced paragraph (restored here) about the legal status of Kurds in Japan without explanation. The editor's activity on the same article on jawiki also seems to consist mainly of adding highly biased and non-neutral claims, such as "疑心暗鬼が強いため、親族以外とのコミュニケーションが難しい傾向がある" ("Due to strong suspicions and paranoia, [Kurds] tend to have difficulty communicating with anyone outside of their family"), to the lead section and other prominent parts of the article while removing neutral encyclopedic information that supports a multifaceted viewpoint. These edits are sometimes justified by a deliberate misinterpretation of policies, such as labeling an NHK report as an "advertisement." Since then, their edits have gone largely unchallenged, and almost nothing is being done about it. Kaze757 (talk) 01:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. The enwiki and jawiki seem to have different cultures for controversial topics; on enwiki these kinds of inflammatory editors tend to be challenged very quickly and by many users. In my experience, jawiki seems to have fewer users willing to challenge users like this. Thank you for approaching such controversial topics thoughtfully. seefooddiet (talk) 02:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed some paragraphs added by AIMOF. AIMOF translated a large amount of low-quality text from the Japanese Wikipedia, which unfairly and consistently portrays Kurds in Japan in a negative light. This includes generalizations about Kurds and selective source choices that support a biased view while covertly omitting a sourced paragraph (restored here) about the legal status of Kurds in Japan without explanation. The editor's activity on the same article on jawiki also seems to consist mainly of adding highly biased and non-neutral claims, such as "疑心暗鬼が強いため、親族以外とのコミュニケーションが難しい傾向がある" ("Due to strong suspicions and paranoia, [Kurds] tend to have difficulty communicating with anyone outside of their family"), to the lead section and other prominent parts of the article while removing neutral encyclopedic information that supports a multifaceted viewpoint. These edits are sometimes justified by a deliberate misinterpretation of policies, such as labeling an NHK report as an "advertisement." Since then, their edits have gone largely unchallenged, and almost nothing is being done about it. Kaze757 (talk) 01:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Kaze757 I'd advocate for undoing the revisions of AIMOF. For others reading, see Talk:Kantō Massacre. I'm highly skeptical of the contributions of AIMOF, who recently translated portions of the Japanese article. Their edits consistently lean negative towards the Kurdish people in this article, and they cite right-wing nationalist papers like Sankei Shimbun for controversial facts. To me, they have no credibility; too overtly nationalist to trust. seefooddiet (talk) 17:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- I want to highlight something here about AIMOF. This user must not be allowed to influence enwiki much. The Japanese Wikipedia has a serious nearly incurable sickness that must be quarantined.
- [1] See this edit. This is on an article about a documentary about Kurdish people in Japan.
- This user added an unsourced statement about WP:BLP, with clear intent to imply something about the people (that they have money and that they don't need to be in Japan).
- This user cited an unreliable source ([2]): a self-published website for extremely controversial claims.
- They changed a category from "refugee" to "foreigner crime". This is presumably based on the self-published website that they used for a source.
- Watch them not get banned. The Japanese Wikipedia is seriously ill. seefooddiet (talk) 08:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- User:AIMOF has been indefinitely blocked on the Japanese Wikipedia today following a community ban proposal and has not edited this article since June 28. Kaze757 (talk) 13:13, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- A temporary relief, but honestly little comfort to me. Took the Japanese Wikipedia over four months for the block since the first major red flags. Most of the user's edits are still online, and I'm concerned about the ja:川口クルド人100人病院前乱闘事件 article that was created by a new account soon after it became clear that AIMOF would be banned.
- It's crazy that the Japanese Wikipedia's disciplinary system rewards behavior like AIMOF's. Their work remains online for months and all they have to do is make a new account to keep acting this way. Its good users have much more important things to be doing than cleaning up these messes. seefooddiet (talk) 16:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- User:AIMOF has been indefinitely blocked on the Japanese Wikipedia today following a community ban proposal and has not edited this article since June 28. Kaze757 (talk) 13:13, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Japanese Wikipedia
[edit]Yet more of the same is happening on the Japanese Wikipedia ja:川口クルド人問題. Also created by a brand new account. Not surprisingly, the article is almost entirely sourced to Sankei Shimbun. seefooddiet (talk) 03:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)