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A fact from Kuomintang Islamic insurgency appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 August 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that thousands of Muslims from Myanmar and Thailand who have migrated to Taiwan were descendants of nationalist soldiers that fled Yunnan when the communists took over mainland China?

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Ma anliang's family never joined the KMT

Although the Ma Clique was made out of three families, (ma haiyan family, ma qianling family, and ma zhanao family) the ma zhanao family was kicked out of power around 1927. Its members (ma anliang and ma tingxian) were notorious for massacring their opponents,both hui and han, including ma anliang massacring the entire xidaotang Hui sect, and ma tingxian butchering han in gansu. They lost their power to he ma qianling and ma haiyan family, which is why members of the ma haiyan family (ma bufang And ma buqing) and ma qianling family (ma hongkui and ma hongbin) dominated the northwest during KMT rule. ma tingxian never ruled and was only a general before he hoarded his wealth and fled to Tianjin. He was executed by the peoples court in 1962 years after this insurgency happened, and had nothing to do with the kuomintang nor resisting against the CCP.Mendsetting (talk) 04:08, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Qinghai front

Some Tibetan anti CCP rebels, especially in Amdo were not aligned with the Dalai Lama's forces in U Tsang but rather allied to the salars and were possibly former Ma Bufang soldiers. Some Tibetans served in the Ma Clique armies and fought with them against the Tibetan government of the Dalai Lama when they were at war.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=DaLkNE_20a0C&pg=PA66#v=onepage&q&f=false

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http://books.google.com/books?id=DbkfQATHikQC&pg=PA73#v=onepage&q&f=false

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http://qinghaiecotourism.com/zh/assets/Emergence%25202004.pdf

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http://epress.lib.uts.edu.au/journals/index.php/portal/article/download/83/51

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http://www.worldcat.org/title/dang-dai-zhongguo-de-qinghai-contemporary-china-qinghai/oclc/610565653

References

^ Allatson, Paul; McCormack, Jo, eds. (2008). Exile Cultures, Misplaced Identities. Vol. Volume 30 of Critical studies (illustrated ed.). Rodopi. p. 66. ISBN 978-9042024069. ISSN 0923-411X. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help)
^ Goodman, David S. G., ed. (2004). China's Campaign to 'Open Up the West': National, Provincial and Local Perspectives. Vol. Volume 178 of China quarterly : an international journal for the study of China (illustrated ed.). Cambridge University Press. p. 73. ISBN 0521613493. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help)
^ Goodman, David S. G. (2004). "Qinghai and the Emergence of the West: Nationalities, Communal Interaction and National Integration" (PDF). The China Quarterly. Cambridge University Press for the School of Oriental and African Studies. University of London, UK. ISSN 0305-7410. Retrieved 13 July 2014.
^ Goodman, David S G (January 2005). "Exiled by Definition: The Salar of Northwest China". Portal Journal of Multidisciplinary International Studies. 2 (1). ISSN 1449-2490. Retrieved 13 July 2014.
^ 当代中国的青海 = Contemporary China : Qinghai / Dang dai Zhongguo de Qinghai = Contemporary China : Qinghai. Dang dai Zhongguo cong shu, [135]. 當代中國出版社 ; 香港祖国出版社, Beijing Shi : Dang dai Zhongguo chu ban she ; Xianggang : Xianggang zu guo chu ban she. 2009. OCLC 610565653. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |editors= ignored (|editor= suggested) (help)

Yunnan front

The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle By Richard Michael Gibson

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http://books.google.com/books?id=agBFqu_an6oC&pg=PT58#v=onepage&q&f=false

Muslim Maj. General Ma Chün-kuo

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http://books.google.com/books?id=agBFqu_an6oC&pg=PT68#v=onepage&q&f=false

Muslim Mapang Ma Shou-yi

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http://books.google.com/books?id=agBFqu_an6oC&pg=PT69#v=onepage&q&f=false

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http://books.google.com/books?id=agBFqu_an6oC&pg=PT229#v=onepage&q&f=false

Hui heroin dealers in the Golden Triangle supported KMT insurgents

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http://books.google.com/books?id=GCvBCPb4-yQC&pg=PA132&dq=Hui+heroin&hl=en&sa=X&ei=O3LhUue5EZTNsASYtYCwCg&ved=0CGEQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Hui%20heroin&f=false

04:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

References

^ Gibson, Richard Michael (2011). The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle. Contributor Wen H. Chen (illustrated ed.). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0470830215. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
^ Gibson, Richard Michael (2011). The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle. Contributor Wen H. Chen (illustrated ed.). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0470830215. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
^ Gibson, Richard Michael (2011). The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle. Contributor Wen H. Chen (illustrated ed.). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0470830215. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
^ Gibson, Richard Michael (2011). The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle. Contributor Wen H. Chen (illustrated ed.). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0470830215. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
^ The World Heroin Market : Can Supply Be Cut?: Can Supply Be Cut? (illustrated ed.). Oxford University Press. 2009. p. 132. ISBN 978-0199717361. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

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The title of this article is misleading and the article's scope mirrors "Campaign to Suppress Bandits in Southwestern China"

There was a Muslim insurgency, if you could call it that, but there was no "Islamic" insurgency. The original creator of this article, for whatever reason, decided to group all the Muslim generals and officers of the Kuomintang into an article, even though other non-Muslim Kuomintang waged insurgencies against the PRC, including Li Mi who is mentioned in this very article. The Muslim Kuomintang leaders did not wage the insurgency because of their faith; they fought against the Communist government because they were Kuomintang. The fact that they were Muslim has no relation to their continued insurgency. Yunnan is also dubiously included with northwest China, even though the Kuomintang officers there (like Li Mi) were not Muslim! And the original editors who worked on this article years ago for the DYK would have known this if they actually read the sources they (were) provided!

The scope of this article also mirrors Campaign to Suppress Bandits in Southwestern China with the inclusion of Yunnan, which again, does not make sense considering the invented topic of this article. Yue🌙 01:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Allatson, Paul; McCormack, Jo, eds. (2008). Exile Cultures, Misplaced Identities. Vol. Volume 30 of Critical studies (illustrated ed.). Rodopi. p. 66. ISBN 978-9042024069. ISSN 0923-411X. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help)

[2] Goodman, David S. G., ed. (2004). China's Campaign to 'Open Up the West': National, Provincial and Local Perspectives. Vol. Volume 178 of China quarterly : an international journal for the study of China (illustrated ed.). Cambridge University Press. p. 73. ISBN 0521613493. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help)

[3] Goodman, David S. G. (2004). "Qinghai and the Emergence of the West: Nationalities, Communal Interaction and National Integration" (PDF). The China Quarterly. Cambridge University Press for the School of Oriental and African Studies. University of London, UK. ISSN 0305-7410. Retrieved 13 July 2014.

[4] Goodman, David S G (January 2005). "Exiled by Definition: The Salar of Northwest China". Portal Journal of Multidisciplinary International Studies. 2 (1). ISSN 1449-2490. Retrieved 13 July 2014.

[5] 当代中国的青海 = Contemporary China : Qinghai / Dang dai Zhongguo de Qinghai = Contemporary China : Qinghai. Dang dai Zhongguo cong shu, [135]. 當代中國出版社 ; 香港祖国出版社, Beijing Shi : Dang dai Zhongguo chu ban she ; Xianggang : Xianggang zu guo chu ban she. 2009. OCLC 610565653. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |editors= ignored (|editor= suggested) (help)

[6] Gibson, Richard Michael (2011). The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle. Contributor Wen H. Chen (illustrated ed.). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0470830215. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

[7] Gibson, Richard Michael (2011). The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle. Contributor Wen H. Chen (illustrated ed.). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0470830215. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

[8] Gibson, Richard Michael (2011). The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle. Contributor Wen H. Chen (illustrated ed.). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0470830215. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

[9] Gibson, Richard Michael (2011). The Secret Army: Chiang Kai-shek and the Drug Warlords of the Golden Triangle. Contributor Wen H. Chen (illustrated ed.). John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0470830215. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

[10] The World Heroin Market : Can Supply Be Cut?: Can Supply Be Cut? (illustrated ed.). Oxford University Press. 2009. p. 132. ISBN 978-0199717361. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

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