Talk:Kruševo
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Name in Esperanto?
[edit]Please, check Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names), section General guidelines. Esperanto does not meet the criterias below:
- Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or that is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted. Local official names should be listed before other alternate names if they differ from a widely accepted English name. Other relevant language names may appear in alphabetic order of their respective languages – i.e., (Estonian: Soome laht; Finnish: Suomenlahti; Russian: Финский залив, Finskiy zaliv; Swedish: Finska viken). Separate languages should be separated by semicolons. Jingiby (talk) 13:29, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
[User:Berberu]: There are 2-3.5 million Esperanto speakers in the World (growing by 3/4+ mil/year), and 16-30th place on Wikipedia (ahead of all Balkan languages). Esperanto is International Neutral Language that in 1910 was taught in state schools in Republic of China, Samos and Macedonia. (Today it is part of curriculum of China, Hungary and Bulgaria.) Check Esperanto History in Wikipedia.
I'm preparing extension of 8+ years Aromanian summer classes in Kruševo to be extended with Esperanto and English parallels, including for tourists/international paragliders. So, VERY RELEVANT for the region and the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berberu (talk • contribs) 02:44, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- Berberu, Esperanto was never spoken as a native or official language there. Neither it is spoken by a significant minority from at least 10% of the locals. Please, stop imposing your personal opinion on that langugage in the article. This language is in any way significant in Krushevo. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 06:36, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- Berberu, please check again Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names). In the section Use English is explained why we use English names here. In the section Widely accepted name is explained why on English Wikipedia only widely accepted and sourced names are used. In the section Emphasis is explained why if there is not a consensus about how relevant one name is, it is better to deemphasize it. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 12:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Ottoman rule identity
[edit]The Ottoman rule section mentions the presence of an Orthodox Albanian community at the time, it does not say they were "Bulgarians, Romanians and Greeks". Ktrimi991 (talk) 12:41, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- As far as I know, millions of today's Greeks fore are actually Albanians who lost their ethnic identity during the Ottoman rule. There are dozens of villages in Bulgaria with such people, who today are Bulgarians, and only the old names of the settlements where they live remind of their ethnic origin. Such people just lost their language and separate character and were assimilated. Jingiby (talk) 12:43, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Ethymology
[edit]I would like to discuss about etymology of Kruševo. As the conection of Illyrians, Dardanians etc. with modern day Albanians are not proven, I would like to point out the doubt of the source and whole explanation of the etymology of the name of Kruševo. Next, there are a lot of Slavic toponyms that starts with Kruš- in Slavic countries (Kruševac, Kruševica and Krušce in Serbia, Krušovice in Czechia, Kruszwica in Poland, Krauschwitz or Krušwica in the easternmost part of Germany, which is full of Slavic toponyms...). As Kruševo is first mentioned in the 15th century, how is it possible that something that didn't exist have "proto-Albanian" roots and then literarly translated to Slavic? Is there any other "proto-Albanian" toponyms near there? Where are those "Darda- toponyms" near there? Beside obvious Turkish one Demir Hisar, most of them are Slavic. Savča018 (talk) 23:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)