Talk:Krebiozen
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Dangling Participle?
[edit]Just checking a reference by someone to various 'pseudo-scientific' ideas, and noticed the tag in the second paragraph calling for identification of the initial proponent of Krebiozen. My first inclination was the last prepositional phrase "by Dr. Stevan Durovic" was in fact a dangling participle and 'tacked on at the last moment' by the original writer; that in fact, the sentence meant to say:
It is claimed 'by Dr. Stevan Durovic that Krebiozen, originally called substance X, came from horses inoculated with Actinomyces bovis.
...but now I begin have doubts. It is possible that the sentence means that Dr. Durovic was the one who inocluated the horses, even though later sentences refer to him making the anti-cancer claims and making others in the field aware of what apparently is his discovery.
So before I simply rearrange the contentious sentence (without the emphasis, naturally) and excise the tag, I'd feel better investigating this further, and am merely amending the discussion logs - er, creating the logs ;) - to document my ideas and intentions. Empath (talk) 12:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Potential sources
[edit]- Langer E (1966). "The Krebiozen case: what happened in Chicago". Science. 151 (714): 1061–4. doi:10.1126/science.151.3714.1061. PMID 5952238.
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ignored (help) - Langer E (1964). "Krebiozen: Government Indicts Sponsors of Alleged Cancer Drug; Ivy, Durovic, among Those Named". Science. 146 (3649): 1282–4. doi:10.1126/science.146.3649.1282. PMID 17810142.
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ignored (help) - "Unproven methods of cancer management. Krebiozen and carcalon". CA Cancer J Clin. 23 (2): 111–5. 1973. doi:10.3322/canjclin.23.2.111. PMID 4196527.
- IVY AC (1951). "Krebiozen". Science. 114 (2959): 285–6. PMID 14866224.
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ignored (help) - Holland JF (1967). "The krebiozen story. Is cancer quackery dead?". JAMA. 200 (3): 213–8. doi:10.1001/jama.1967.03120160079011. PMID 6071435.
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ignored (help) - http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=QDFgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=sm8NAAAAIBAJ&pg=5941,44182&dq=krebiozen&hl=en
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=tU5RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=AgYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4427,738858&dq=krebiozen&hl=en
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=1JUiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1qkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=708,2160326&dq=krebiozen&hl=en
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=tE5RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=AgYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1333,190363&dq=krebiozen&hl=en
— Scientizzle 14:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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Robert Ham
[edit]Interestingly, my brother, Robert Ham, received Krebiozen, at whatever cost my parents could afford, and it seemed to hold the tumor in his hypothalmus which was not removed by neurosurgery in 1955 at Childrens hospital, but was shrunk by Cobalt treatment at City of Hope hospital - at bay. At age 5, after the initial surgery which failed to remove the tumor, my folks were told to take Bob home and that he would die within 6 months. My mother searched - and the cobalt treatment at City of Hope shrunk the tumor and Bob came home ..... hemiplegic - but learned to walk, talk, read - play etc, again. Bob then began using Krebiozen, until the AMA succeeded in making it illegal in every state but Illinois. There Dr. Ivy was held in high regard. Bob went without Krebiozen for a year - and the tumor steadily grew. He was in line for further surgery and/or radiation at City of Hope when a neighbor suggested to my mother that she contact a family member in Chicago for the Krebiozen. The turn around was very quick. By the time Bob was taken back to the surgeon he commented that the tumor seemed to be shrinking. When my mother said way, she said the MD turned his back on her and said "I cannot discuss that". Bob did not have the surgery.... and Bob continued to self-administer Krebiozen until he ran out in the 80's. Bob is currently 1 month shy of his 68th birthday and now has a huge menengioma taking up 1/3 of his head. chanaham@yahoo.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.95.236.184 (talk) 20:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Sources needed
[edit]There second paragraph of the lede needs citations for both statements. The cite to the American Cancer society no longer works, nor does a search on its website for the substance, and it has not been archived. There has never been a cite for the statement by the FDA. Kablammo (talk) 16:33, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- There's a more recent book from the ACS. I'll see if I can dig out a reference ... Alexbrn (talk) 17:33, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
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