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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2005/anime-expo/22 Kotoko Focus Panel interview at Anime Expo 2005

Some stuff that was above the TOC

KOTOKO has not opened the real name and The age to the public. The information is not accurate.

 http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pressrelease.php?id=1070

 ANIME EXPO® 2005 ANNOUNCES: SEKI, KOTOKO HORIKAWA, KITAKUBO, KOBAYASHI, SHIMOGASA, AND YAMASHITA AS
 CONFIRMED GUESTS OF HONOR AT 14TH ANNUAL ANIME EXPO® JULY 1-4, 2005 WITH SPECIAL GUESTS FREEMAN AND CLINKENBEARD
 
 "KOTOKO HORIKAWA" is a mistake, It is collect "KOTOKO, HORIKAWA,"
 
 becouse...
 Ryo Horikawa, Hiroyuki Kitakubo, Osamu Kobayashi, Tomokazu Seki, Miho Shimogasa, Akihito Yamashita and Kotoko

 "the year of her birth"
 http://kotoko-net.com/profile.html
 Birth day is "January 19th"
 
 Is there the one being able to prove she was born in 1980?

Her name is usually written "KOTOKO", not "Kotoko" - should the article title reflect this? --maebmij

Please see this page for some problems related to this article. How should we rename this article ? I suggest KOTOKO_(artist) ... | ipridian 10:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re the great orochi's replacement of the original content of this page: Did you write this content yourself? If not, it may be a copyright violation from here. -Maebmij 17:37, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think the content of the previous version of this page was somewhat useful - the current article doesn't really summarise who KOTOKO is. I'm putting it back in as the first paragraph of the article, since it seems to make sense there. -Maebmij 17:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re Maebmij's question : To answer your question, Yes I did write the contents myself. I contributed it by joining the Anime Source forums, in which my information about KOTOKO was posted.Though that content contains some mistakes, I plan on adding and referencing more information on her on the Wikipedia entry, since it can be edited by anyone, which is highly a great advantage.Here is a list of sites that I used as references to provide information about KOTOKO. -the great orochi 17:36 18 January 2005

http://www.kotoko-net.com/

http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/music/kotoko/

https://www.pokka.co.jp/soup/kotokoto/kotoko/

http://www.alpha-net.ne.jp/users2/nakapyon/kotoko/

OK, cool - thanks for getting back to me. -Maebmij 08:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To someone who can read Japanese: The article previously began with "KOTOKO (作詞)"; plugging "作詞" through babelfish produces "Writing the lyric". I would expect the text in that position to be the Japanese script form of the name "KOTOKO", if one exists - is this the case? Or does it mean something like "KOTOKO (lyrics)", as in a song credit listing for example? I have replaced ith with the hiragana transliteration "KOTOKO (ことこ)" from the Japanese entry, but I'm not sure we even need that, as it seems her name is always written using roman characters (?). -Maebmij 08:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re Maebmij : I've look deeper into finding the kanji for KOTOKO, apparently, there is no existing kanji for KOTOKO. She idetifies her as "KOTOKO" in roman form. I made a slight mistake by adding "作詞", which means "Lyrics", which I confused for her name in kanji.However,he other one "ことこ", is not really needed,Its just a small addition to what her name is in hiragana.--The great orochi 20:54, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added the songlist from the Japanese article of KOTOKO.I also modified the list by adding several new songs ranging from Mid 2005 to present day 2006. Is it considered a violation of the copyrights or just copy and paste from one language to another? --The great orochi 04:06, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KOTOKO has been related with I've Sound ever since her good friend EIKO roped her into the company. At the Anime Expo 2005 panel, I asked her about how she became affiliated with I've Sound and that was the response I received. As for how old she was at the time, she mentioned that she was 22 (I think) and it actually more of a coincidence that she got to work for I've Sound than it was her dream to be a singer. She firmly stated that her friends had always liked her voice and that it was because of her voice that her senpai, EIKO, roped her into I've Sound. I believe the page needs to be corrected to reflect this info. I also believe that the page needs to be corrected on the number of albums that KOTOKO has produced with I've Sound. Starting with Compilation 3, KOTOKO's presence in the following I've albums is undeniable: Compilations 4-6 and Short Circuit. These are the major albums that I know for sure had KOTOKO's participation which comes up to 5 albums. Hane and Garasu no Kaze were released under Geneon's publication and not under I've Sound's direct control.

The TRUSH VOX series is actually an unofficial remix of I've Sound songs that received the I've Girls' presence in the remix. I am unclear on how this was managed but KOTOKO herself did not deny that she also participated in it. (Psychoneko 01:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC))[reply]

>Concerning your message, I edited simple because ANN

>has an incorrect information listing about her year of birth.

How do you know ANN has an incorrect information? This site seems like fairly relable to me. Also, Russian Wiki mentions her year of birth. Netrat_msk (talk) 09:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ANN probably used the old birthdate in Wikipedia as a source. That's why it's no more credible than the date that was being shown on Wikipedia a year ago. You have to remember that ANN is an amateur website. The people who write articles for it are people who do it for fun and have no credibility. - Spidersolitaire —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.183.183 (talk) 06:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the last edit

I am wondering why somebody would remove the year of her birth from the biography. Any ideas?

Re: I wonder that as well. To anyone who further edits this article on KOTOKO, such as removing parts of information, please post in the discussion and post what you removed and why? Otherwise I would consider it a minor vandalism.--The great orochi 06:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Again, to all of those who are removing sections of the KOTOKO article, please state the reason for the revomal of that section in this discussion page. I re-added the Profile information for those who wanted a quick summary of KOTOKO.--The great orochi 19:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the year of her birth as it's something that has been kept secret by both her Record Company and Management company. I ask kindly that the year of her birth be removed from the entry for the artist's own privacy.

P.S. Pronounciation for 秋爽 corrected. It's pronounced Shuusou, and refers to how refreshing the autumn breeze is.

Technically, we're're both right. When combining kanji, you can use either the Japanese or the Chinese pronunciations. Normally, you'd use the Chinese readings as you did, but mixing the Chinese and the Japanese readings as I did can also be done. But in cases like this, when there must be one right answer, you'd be better off consulting a pure Japanese dictionary. In this case, the correct pronunciation is "shuusou," according to what Yahoo.co.jp's dictionary says. Definition translation:

"A bright and clear autumn atmosphere that brings about a good feeling. (synonyms=) Fresh/Refreshing/Invigorating. Cool and refreshing." --The great orochi 18:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected the name of her second Album. It is written as "Garasu no Nabikaze" but it is supposed to be read "Garasu no Kaze".

I added EIKO and KOTOKO's relationship to the trivia section because I felt that it deserved to be mentioned that EIKO was the one who literally brought KOTOKO into I'veSound per the 2005 Anime Expo panel. (Psychoneko 12:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Added Section

I've added a trivia section to the KOTOKO article. I've copy and pasted parts of the material used from the discussion page on I've Sound.

Incorrect information

Horikawa is NOT KOTOKO's last name.

Her full name and birth year has not been released by her management company, and so the Wikipedia article should not list either information.

~~{{WikiProject Biography}} was added to the top of this talk page by me. Please see that the article conforms to guidelines under this WikiProject. --Geopgeop 18:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)~~[reply]

Actually, it should be {{Musician}}. --Geopgeop 19:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They're now one and the same :) --kingboyk 18:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Song List

Do we really need to list all the songs KOTOKO have done in the past? I feel they're not really need and can be removed, but what's everyone's opinion on that? Miyuki 07:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A song list would be going overboard. She's currently working on Hayate no Gotoku as well as a number of other shows (and games). Even the official I'veSound site occasionally doesn't list some of the songs the I've Girls have performed due to license/copyright ownership. A good example would be the song titled "Song For Eternity" for the eroge IDOLL which is licensed by IMAGECRAFT entirely. (Psychoneko 08:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Sorry but this is complete bs. You CANNOT use IP laws to stop people from naming things what they are. Even Coca Cola cannot stop you from calling Coca Cola Coca Cola. Back on the topic of song names, I think a list of song names would be good since the vast majority of her songs are not on her official albums listed on her wikipedia page but it should probably be listed in a separate wikipedia article so it doesn't clutter up this page. Lenneth (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Album List

KOTOKO's first album with I'veSound was I've Girls Compilation Album Vol. 3 DISINTEGRATION. I don't see that and Volume 5 OUTFLOW on the page. (Psychoneko 12:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I forgot to add that the Album List is also missing the Short Circuit albums. (Psychoneko 12:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Birth year

There have been a arguement about it before but, was there any official statement on KOTOKO's birth year since then? If there isn't, I will go ahead and remove the birth year from the article. Miyuki (talk) 21:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes needed more than anything?

I've did a check of some of the external links, and it appears that it's a lack of footnotes that's bogging down this article as those links do back up a bulk of the info. In the interim, I added a footnotes tag and modified the existing source one to reflect the BLP status of this article... Ranma9617 (talk) 02:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

Nothing big, but KOTOKO will be changing her name from "KOTOKO" in all caps to an all lowercase "kotoko" on April 21st to mark her 5th year as a singer.
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/150/150105/ --Koheiman (talk) 10:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is not true. "kotoko" is technically a separate artist from "KOTOKO". It's the same person, but it's a different name she is using to sing songs produced by people outside of I'VE. Technically, "BlazBlue" songs should not be listed under KOTOKO but listed in a separate article for "kotoko". If you look in the credits the song is by "kotoko" by the lyrics are by "KOTOKO" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.90.3 (talk) 07:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently (2012-08-01) lists KOTOKO's record label as 'Warner Music Japan'. This is incorrect. Her current record label is "Warner Home Video", a sub-division of Warner Bros. Japan. Warner Music became independent of and seperate from Warner Bros. in 2004. Miduki 74 (talk) 12:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

Hi, there was a no photography policy at KOTOKO's panel at Animazement, therefore pictures taken without permission there should not be used in the article. In fact Japanese talent agencies are extremely strict about photos that can and can't be used. No photos should be used without the agency's permission.— Preceding unsigned comment added by TakesugiShinsaku (talk • contribs)

Even if that's true, I doubt the press weren't able to take photos. And even if that were the case, the photos are in the public domain, so therefore they're fair game on Wikipedia.--十八 19:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This photo policy is actually a big deal for American conventions. Cooperating with the agencies and respecting the wishes of the artists and agencies make it much easier to get them to work overseas in the future. I'm not saying don't put a picture up, I'm saying use a picture that's been approved by the agency as a show of professionalism and cooperation. Also FYI Japan does have laws regarding image rights, images taken of you can only be used with your permission in Japan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TakesugiShinsaku (talk • contribs) 08:18, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Besides, this is the English Wikipedia and not the Japanese Wikipedia, and it's also a global encyclopedia used by everyone from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe, so Japanese laws don't apply here (as stated repeatedly on Wiki, only the laws of either the U.S. or Florida apply here), so unless it is also the case with American laws, that won't be a problem. Even if photography is prohibited, how the photos are licensed will still be up to the photographer. Say if I go to Area 51, I could take pictures of it even if that's illegal, but I can still freely license it anyway I want. When it comes to images here, what matters is not the individual locale's policies, it's that such images are still compatible with Wikipedia's licensing. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:25, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The real question is whether the photo was illegally taken and whether the photo is released under a free use license. Since this photo was taken in the United States, US laws and specifically the laws in North Carolina were Animazement was held will apply. Generally in the US, people are free to take photographs out in public so long as there no expectation of privacy (and there was non here). While some venues may have a no photography policy, it is not illegal to take a photo of someone in a public setting (which almost all conventions are) nor does a no photography policy make it illegal to take photographs at such an event. And finally, her agency doesn't control the copyright of the photo since it was taken by someone else, so it won't matter whether they give permission or not. So long as it is a legal, free use image, Wikipedia can use it. —Farix (t | c) 10:50, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As such, I'll now boldly bring back the image. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:54, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If TakesugiShinsaku believes the photo was taken in violation of the laws of the United States and North Carolina, then s/he needs to take his/her case to Commons where the image resides. But so long as the photo remains on Commons, the there is no problem using it on the article. —Farix (t | c) 11:19, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep—it looks like this RFC has been resolved and the editor who put it in should remove it, but for what it's worth, I agree with Farix that since the image is on Wikimedia Commons (meaning that the copyright and permissions have been checked), it's fair game to use in the article. Abhayakara (talk) 02:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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