Talk:Korean Air incidents and accidents/Archive 1

Archive 1

What a Shame

The original Incidents and Accidents section at the Korean Air page had significantly more documented cases of airframe loss. Over the months that list was trimmed and modified and truncated while contributors left notations in the discussion section asking why Korean Air had significantly more citations than other airlines. Could it be that Korean Air had more citations of deadly airframe loss because the rate of loss is significantly higher than that of comparable airlines?

Documentation on numerous air disaster statistical sites illustrates that Korean Air has an abnormally high number of deadly crashes in comparison to airlines across the industrialized world. Historical evidence is an irritant to politically correct consensus. It is unfortunate that scrupulous documentation was not sufficient to keep well-researched material on a Wikipedia page. Unfortunately, someone saw the extraordinarily high passenger kill ratio and took offence – so for many months the documented entries for Korean Air disasters have been whittled down to a presentation more befitting of a Korean Air corporate brochure. Anyone coming here looking for documented facts should be very wary of what they find. Wikipedia is certainly not a good reference source for subjects such as Korean Air Incidents and Accidents.

My initial inclination was to go back to the Korean Air history page and cull the original citations and present them again here – but they would inevitably be edited out by someone offended by the documentation of so many crashes and so much death. If you want to see the original list, then go to the history of the original page [1]

I am disatisfied with the shorted list as well. For ones who doubts why Korean Air had significantly more citations than other airlines, the truth is Korean Air did have a lot more accidents than the other airlines and besides the poor safety record and standard was well known both to the industry and the piloting world. Albeit, I agree with one statement on the Korean Air main page, probably laid down the same person who "sabotaged" this page. It mentioned that Korean Air saftey has improved its saftey standard. In my humble opinon, it makes no sense to cover up the old facts. It just gives the impression that it is worse. En51cm 07:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The list has been reinstated to the pre-bowdlerized state. Let us see how long it takes before someone finds offence in documented fact because truth is uncomfortable.

Reinstated material that was removed 14 October, 2007. While some incidents are not noteworthy, many of note including several fatalities were removed and never reinstated. Retained edits made since. Lmj81 (talk) 18:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Copyright vio?

The flight 902 account is largely identical to http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19780420-1 which is marked "copyright 1996-2007 Aviation Safety Network". Is this a Copyright violation, or is there a common open source? (It also differs somewhat from the main article's account.) Rwendland 11:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Incredibly Distasteful

I find it incredibly distasteful and thoughtless that someone found it appropriate to insert a photograph of a Korean Air aircraft in flight on this page. Isn’t there a more appropriate place – like anywhere but here?

Agreed – whomever placed that photograph on this page has the sensitivity and wisdom of a ham-fisted lorry driver. I am taking the liberty of removing the photograph in the name of decency, good taste, and civility. It would be appropriate to have photographs on other pages but certainly NOT here.163.1.236.22 10:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

As of this date there are three photos on this page again... I am taking the liberty of removing them. Photos of planes in flight belong elsewhere -=- not here. Please respect the dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.70.82.164 (talk) 08:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I support the deletion. In addition, the images are self-made manufactured from photos of unknown copyright status. Can someone to report them to Wikimedia Commons for deletion? Mukadderat (talk) 23:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)