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Koorie not an Aust-wide term

The article says: Because of the wide variety of indigenous languages and cultures, koori has not gained Australia-wide acceptance, being confined mostly to New South Wales and Victoria. This sentence suggests that the term is an appropriate term to be used all over the country and is a very Sydney/Melbourne-centric view. Rather than being a synonym for 'Indigenous Australians', the various terms listed in the article have come to refer to the Indigenous people in the areas where they are used. So Murri is used to mean Indigenous people who are from Queensland (not just in SE Qld as the reference suggests, but I know from experience that it is also used in North Qld) Yolngu means an Aboriginal person from Arnhem Land and so on. If I was in Qld and somebody used the term Koorie, that to me would suggest "Abouriginal people in south eastern Australia", just as Yolngu would mean people from NE NT. I think the article should be changed to reflect this. Saying that the term hasn't 'gained acceptance' is inacurrate.

Thanks for pointing that out. There seems to be some confusion vis-à-Vis Koori etc. Would be good if you could build on (and bring some clarity to) this and related articles (it seems you have some first hand knowledge). Even a quick google search will lead one to think that Koori equals Indigenous Australians. --Ezeu 11:03, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The article starts by saying this term is a demonym for people coming from a region that "approximately corresponds to southern New South Wales and Victoria", but the map shows the whole of NSW and Victoria. Is the "southern" an error? Or maybe it was meant to mean "south-eastern Australia"? Faff296 (talk) 05:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

korri

what language is spoken by koori people today?

English. --Ezeu 19:25, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just like a lot of Ugandans speak English. But some don't. --Ga rr ie 05:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Koori language and people

I'm not too sure how many languages are spoken by Koori. I know that at the time of colonisation there were over 500 languages spoken on the continent. Today there are about 50 indigenous Australian languages still spoken. I thought that Tasmania was also inhabited by Koori prior to colonisation. That has not been mentioned in the article.

There were indiginous inhabitants. I understand they were no more closely related to the kooris around Melbourne, then the kooris were to Mouris (that is to say, they were from a different era of human migration of Australia to Kooris). No, sorry, I don't have a reference for that, other than "that's what I've been told".--Ga rr ie 05:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I belive the closest area of full blooded koories who inhabit the original area's are near Sale and the Murray riverarea, but I am not sure about that. And the CERES farm in Brunswick they have ties to the Wurundjeri group who inhabited the area and they still preserve some lexicon of there language. Enlil Ninlil 08:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

These include: Koori (or Koorie) in New South Wales and Victoria; Murri in Queensland; Noongar in southern Western Australia; Yamatji in Central Western Australia; Wangkai in the Western Australian Goldfields; Nunga in southern South Australia; Anangu in northern South Australia, and neighbouring parts of Western Australia and Northern Territory; Yapa in western central Northern Territory; Yolngu in eastern Arnhem Land (NT) and Palawah (or Pallawah) in Tasmania These are names from the Australian aboriginal article. Enlil Ninlil

japanese for ice

koori, or こおり　or the kanji 氷 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.52.143.187 (talk) 02:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

referencing to substatiate claims in final paragraph

"Many indigenous Australians object to the use of the terms aborigine and aboriginal, as terms which had been forced on them. They prefer to use words from their own languages. In some languages of southeast Australia (parts of New South Wales and Victoria), the words coorie, kori, kory, koorie, kuri, kooli, or koole mean "person" or "people". " These two sentences need references to substantiate their claims of being forced and more referencing on the history of the terms, and their spread. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.87.110 (talk) 06:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this section here?

Why is the section "Other names used by Australian Indigenous people" in this article? It is uncited, and explicitly about people who do not identify as Koori. I propose it be removed. --Scott Davis ^Talk 02:22, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, ScottDavis. Perhaps it came about because of the first comment above, but it's not really relevant and some of those listed are questionable as being geographically based (e.g. the Yolngu people's name is based on language, although I think may all be in Arnhem Land). Perhaps a single sentence with a link to the Aboriginal identity article, or to a section in Aboriginal Australians and/or List of Aboriginal group names article might be useful. Or as links in See also? I think that some of the other articles (Murri, Nunga, etc.) may include a similar section - do the same for all? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:12, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like about four of them seem to have a similar list (and agree they should probably all be removed). I agree they should all be removed, along with the similar grab-bag at the bottom of the infobox on Murri people. I've trimmed Nunga a bit, but suspect it should be merged to Aboriginal peoples of South Australia instead. --Scott Davis ^Talk 06:21, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox Questions

Hi! I'm trying to add some more information to this stub, but I'm a newbie :)

Could anyone tell me how to edit the size of an image in an infobox (it always comes out massive). Also, how do I hyperlink to other Wikipedia articles in an infobox?

Thank you! Any other advice is always appreciated

p.s. the infobox I used is a template from WikiProjects: Ethnic Group

--Bella2129 (talk) 07:15, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bella2129 and thanks for your efforts to improve Wikipedia. I'm afraid that I'm not entirely sure what your issue is, as the image looks okay to me the way it is, and I am not an expert on either infoboxes or images myself. I did a bit of tinkering and experimented using [[File:Douglas T. Kilburn - No title (Group of Koorie men) - Google Art Project.jpg|100px|centre]] (which is the usual way of displaying in-line images), so if you want to try experimenting with the number of pixels until you get the size you want, that might work. Alternatively, ask at the Teahouse or Help Desk (I'll put a panel with links on your user talk page), and someone there will be able to guide you through the finer points. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:23, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Laterthanyouthink. I posted this query on the Wikipedia Help Desk for Infoboxes, and someone helped me out on there. They also fixed the problems I was having with the image! Thank you so much --Bella2129 (talk) 11:04, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes - realised afterwards that I should have looked at the article history first! I saw that later and realised that others had stepped in. Glad it got sorted, anyway. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:59, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page numbers

Bella, you're doing quite a good job for a beginner. Well done!

I strongly recommend that you add page numbers, where appropriate, to the short-form citations, for two reasons:

It's good practice (makes it easier for other people to verify your text or data).
It helps avoid long (and ugly) strings of backlinks before a short cite (Angus 2018 is a glaring example).

It's easy enough to do, like so: {{sfn|Smith|1995|p=23}}; for more than one page, use {{sfn|Smith|1995|pp=23, 40}}. The ability to specify page numbers is in fact one of the many advantages of the short-form citation system, though I'm also aware that it takes a little extra effort for beginners to learn. --NSH001 (talk) 00:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NSH001, thank you for that help. I'll begin adding in page numbers now. --Bella2129 (talk) 22:07, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, don't hesitate to ask if you have any problems. Just noticed I made a typo in the first example, which I'm also fixing in this edit. --NSH001 (talk) 23:09, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

I think this article is already at C-class. There are short sections like Koori Court, Koori Radio, Koori Mail, Koori Knockout, and Koorie Heritage Trust, which should be expanded and referenced. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Current issues

In this section, Koori appears to be used as a synonym for Aboriginal. Grassynoel (talk) 15:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]