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http://news.yahoo.com/s/AP/20091122/ap_on_re_eu/EU_Russia_obit_Feoktistov 98.81.2.95 (talk) 01:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Dubious

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Thanks for correcting the partisans :)

But I was slightly wrong as well -- in fact he was not a private i.e. he did not have any rank. He was in fact used as a scout for Voronezh as he lived in that city prior to German invasion. He was 16 years old at that time. That practice (using youngsters) was not uncommon for Red Army. It was based on the fact that German patrols rarely detained youngsters and women, and any adult male walking around caused suspicion.

And thus the claim he was the first civilian in space is entirely correct, as he was not officially enlisted to the Red Army during the WW II. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Egh0st (talk • contribs) 22:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, he was used as a scout for his native Voronezh, as youngsters were typically not perceived as spies. Naturally, any adult male wondering around recently captured city would be suspicious.

Also, I've just corrected two not just false but grossly false claims. He was NOT executed with any other prisoners, he was the only one captured. So no "pit of corpses" and other claims of wild imagination. Also, wermaht patrol is most likely wrong, he was captured either by joint SS-Wermaht or solely SS patrol. What is clear though, he was shot by an SS officer.

Just in case, this current wording is dubious and incorrect as well: "After the flight, his training for further space missions was cancelled for medical reasons."

He was indeed later removed from the crew of one of the first Soyuz flights for the medical reasons.

However, later he was assigned on the first team of Energia cosmonauts (the first entirely civilian team, planned for the lunar missions, in this case for the Soviet lunar fly-by program). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Egh0st (talk • contribs) 23:51, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, someone who served in an army or a navy years ago, perhaps during a war, and then left for civilian life, is still considered to be a CIVILIAN from then on in the English language. In the case of Feoktistov, it appears that he never entered an army, navy, or air force whatsoever.98.81.2.95 (talk) 01:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, yes, I've checked and he was indeed assigned to two missions for Soyuz (that is not for Lunar programs). In both he was removed from the crew for the medical reasons. However, he claimed it was false pretext. He had conflicts with many other space technology designers. He was not on speaking terms later in life with Mishin, for instance, and that fact alone is probably more important than his space flight per se. Pity but Western media mostly focused on his space flight achievements, mostly disregarding his design. Some interesting facts to add, for instance, is that he was credited with an idea of a spherical shape of Vostok reentry vehicle, among other things. Egh0st (talk) 20:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

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my references are in Russian though. If you find English equivalents, feel free to substitute. (Note that English sources on Soviet cosmonauts are not so rarely very poor). My second ref is a link to a de-facto official cosmonauts biography website.

Categories

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Biography articles of living people << this category is better to be removed (I mean on discussion page).

Should Russian categories be added? Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 17:21, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More info on Feoktistov

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Astronaut David Scott and Cosmonaut Alexei Leonov both describe Feoktistov in their joint autobiography Two Sides of the Moon: Our Story of the Cold War Space Race published in 2006. Maybe none of it is worth mentioning in the article but I thought I'd record the fact on wikipedia somewhere. Jstuby (talk) 16:31, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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