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TNT N.V., Koninklijke TNT Post & PostNL

According to the official information on the PostNL site:

On 25 May 2011 the General Meeting of Shareholders of TNT N.V. approved the demerger of the Express business. The demerger will be legally effective as per 31 May 2011. TNT N.V.'s statutory name will be changed into PostNL N.V.

Shares in TNT Express N.V. and in PostNL N.V. (as the remaining entity) will be separately traded on NYSE Euronext Amsterdam as from 26 May 2011.

Next, let's read what they write here:

In 1989, the company is incorporated: the state-run enterprise PTT becomes Royal PTT Netherlands (Koninklijke PTT Nederland: KPN). Events in the 1990s continue the trend: mail offices are privatised (1993), KPN is listed on the stock exchange (1994), and the Australian company TNT is obtained through acquisition (1996).

In 2006 we changed our name to TNT Post.

Meanwhile, the strategic profiles of our two major divisions, Mail and Express, continue to diverge. This leads to a decision to demerge TNT Express in 2011, while our company continues under a new name: PostNL.

According to the official information on the TNT N.V. site:

TNT N.V. will continue the Mail Business and will be renamed PostNL N.V.

The "ex spin off" date of the shares in TNT N.V (to be renamed PostNL N.V. following the demerger) – then to be traded under the symbol “PNL” - will also be 26 May 2011.

All that means that:

Koninklijke PTT Nederland existed till 2006.
In 2006, it was renamed to TNT Post.
In 2011, it was renamed to PostNL, with demerging a separate express delivery company, TNT Express.

From now on, there is no company under the name Koninklijke TNT Post or TNT Post or TNT N.V. We cannot find an official website for this company, Koninklijke TNT Post, because it is now PostNL.

The latest edits include:

In the old article Koninklijke TNT Post:

This article is about the Dutch national mail company. For PostNL's European postal operation, see PostNL.
owner = PostNL
owned by PostNL
[http://www.postnl.com/ Official website of parent company]

In the new article PostNL:

Formerly a subsidiary of TNT N.V., it became an independent company upon TNT's demerger in May 2011.
owner = PostNL
owned by PostNL
[http://www.postnl.com/ Official website of parent company]

These statements are not true or are partly true because Koninklijke TNT Post no longer exists and it cannot therefore be owned by PostNL. PostNL is not only "European postal operation", see this statement:

The focus of our company is on mail, parcels and e-commerce in the Netherlands, as well as Germany, Italy and the U.K.

The website postnl.com cannot be "Official website of parent company". It's just the web site of the PostNL company itself.

My suggestion is to reflect all these latest changes in three articles, TNT N.V., Koninklijke TNT Post & PostNL, saying that Koninklijke TNT Post was a former mail operator of the Netherlands that was renamed to PostNL in 2011. And this is what I am going to do. --Michael Romanov (talk) 21:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]