Talk:Koinobori
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ανεμοκυπρίνος - koinobori
[edit]The Greek word for koinobori is ανεμοκυπρίνος
Emoji
[edit]The Unicode Emoji character U+1F38F (🎏) represents koinobori, under the name "carp streamer". — Preceding unsigned comment added by WATANABE Satoshi (talk • contribs) 07:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Lead
[edit]I stumbled on this from a websearch for windcone.
Koinobori (鯉のぼり), meaning 'carp streamer' in Japanese, are carp-shaped windsocks traditionally flown in Japan to celebrate Tango no sekku (端午の節句), a traditional calendrical event which is now designated as Children's Day (子供の日, Kodomo no hi), a national holiday in Japan. Koinobori are made by drawing carp patterns on paper, cloth, or other nonwoven fabric. They are then allowed to flutter in the wind. They are also known as satsuki-nobori (皐のぼり).
The first sentence uses Japan twice and two forms of traditional. Since koinobori is "traditionally flown" then doesn't that make any related calendrical event traditional? In which case it seems generated to shoe-horn in the use of the word calendrical, when it might be more easily stated:
...are carp-shaped windsocks traditionally flown to celebrate Tango no sekku (端午の節句), an annual event in Japan which is now designated as the national holiday Children's Day (子供の日, Kodomo no hi).
The use of annual agrees with the treatment of Tango no sekku in its article.
Satsuki-nobori appears nowhere in the main portion of the article, so its inclusion in the lead mandates a reference to establish it as a fact. It was added unreferenced in this edit. A web search for the term shows websites with information matching this article and without contributing any further information on it, suggesting Wikipedia is their source.
How the koinobori are made is not appropriately covered in the article itself as it mostly seems concerned with the history. Inclusion of the materials for construction in the lead is only a torturous tease if it is not addressed by the article, especially when much ado is made about the order of their display, which is not covered in the lead and is addressed primarily from the perspective of the historic Boys Day instead of the current Children's Day.
- carp-shaped. Nothing about the construction except for the painting seems to be related to carp. The other windsocks are not referred to as carp-shaped, but have a similar shape to the koinobori.
- The order of the materials is problematic for me. It suggests that cloth is a non-woven fabric. And why non-woven if cloth is included as a material and both paper and cloth are fabrics. The duration of display of koinobori in winds that cause them to flutter makes me feel that paper is not the primary material, so again, a longer treatment on construction.
- From the images, it doesn't seem that the koinobori are drawn onto the fabric, but rather they are painted.
- It also doesn't seem that they are allowed to flutter in the wind, but are instead intentionally hung in a way that causes them to flutter in the wind as implied by the word streamer.
Children's Day takes place on May 5, the last day of Golden Week, the largest break for workers and also a week in which many businesses, state schools, and some private schools close for up to 9–10 days for the designated national holidays. Landscapes across Japan are decorated with koinobori from April to early May, in honor of children for a good future and in the hope that they will grow up healthy and strong.
Eliminate the first sentence, fix the second so that it reads better, and combine with the first paragraph.
Recommended edit:
Koinobori (鯉のぼり), meaning 'carp streamer' in Japanese, is a windsock decorated with a design depicting a carp. It is traditionally flown to celebrate Tango no sekku (端午の節句), an annual event in Japan which is now designated as the national holiday Children's Day (子供の日, Kodomo no hi). A Koinobori is made from paper, cloth or other fabric and fastened to a pole so that it flutters in the wind. Leading up to the celebration of Children's Day (May 5), the Japanese homes are decorated with koinobori in honor of children and in the hope for a good future in which they grow up healthy and strong.