Talk:Kochi Metro

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Can you point out sections which sound like a story? Trying to improve the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SpArC (talk • contribs) 10:15, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Why $$?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochi_Metro&curid=17096910&diff=387719573&oldid=387719479 Can you explain the need for conversion to US$? This is purely an Indian article and there is no need to present it in international denomination. --SpArC (talk) 08:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for anyone across the world to be able to see it to get some knowledge. So I guess we need values in both INR and USD for being more reader friendly. You will be amazed how many people outside India read about India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mittal.fdk (talk • contribs) 22:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure you're right. But if people are really so interested shouldn't they known the value of rupee as well? Also, the article quotes a rupee figure in 2005. Converting it into a dollar figure now wouldn't be relevant.--SpArC (talk) 03:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

First Tier-2 city with a metro?

Doesn't that particular honour belong to the Jaipur Metro, which looks set to open years earlier? Jpatokal (talk) 11:26, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Its not the first Tier-2 city with a metro, its the first Tier-II city in India to be granted a metro under the Central Government's plan to allow cities having population more than 20 lakhs to have a metro rail system. BigJolly9 (talk) 11:32, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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Voltage?

Does this metro use:

• 25kV AC or
• 1500VDC? Tabletop (talk) 09:51, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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Criticism

One link in the section 'Criticism' was to an article published by The Hindu, "Byappanahalli-M.G. Road metro stretch more popular". This newspaper article is about Bangalore Metro which is just mentioned here. The section 'Criticism' also says that the same figures are true for Kochi. No reference is given for this. I have removed the link and added a cn notice. Also, isn't 252c - 27c = 230c? Here it is given as 245c. Jose Mathew (talk) 07:31, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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Removal of information regarding the feasibility study by RITES

The information added about the cabinet decision assigning RITES on 1999 July 21 was removed citing non-existent rules and procedures. Reverting the edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratheesh prakash (talk • contribs) 09:10, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Have you gone through the reference that you provided above? After going through that reference, everyone can also conclude that its belongs to the Bangalore Metro Rail. Can you please tell me how its related to Kochi metro?. There's not even any mention about Kochi Metro within the article. So please don't edit as for any Political interests, that didn't have any significance reference. JackTracker (talk) 09:31, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I have added a reference citing a document issued by Central Government. Further details will be added citing proper sources. --prp 09:32, 16 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratheesh prakash (talk • contribs)

Added more citations on the LDF government's Cabinet Meeting of 1999 July 21 (report by Malayala Manorama). I will also be adding the citation from Deshabhimani which was removed earlier by another user. --prp 10:32, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

"A few of the important people who made it happen" section

Why is this necessary? If these people are important, they should be mentioned in the appropriate section, e.g. the construction section or planning section. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 09:27, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Infobox is misleading

When I first glanced at the infobox I saw Kochi Metro had 3 lines! Then looking more carefully, it just has 1 line... but several are either under construction or planned. The infobox is not a crystal ball WP:CRYSTAL and should not contain speculation. The body of the article can contain information on lines under construction, but the infobox is just *what really exists* and should not contain speculation to confuse readers. Mattximus (talk) 10:57, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Please enlighten how the infobox is misleading? The infobox says that there are 3 lines, out of which one is operational, 1 is approved and the third one is planned. References regarding all these are also given. The infobox also says about the 3 Phases, the first one which is operational, the second which is approved and the third which is planned. Citations for all these are also provided. infobox also gives you the exact idea about how many stations are operational, how many are under construction and how many are planned/approved. These are not mere speculations and doesn't qualify as WP:CRYSTAL since each and everything in the infobox is cited with credible references from leading newspapers. I'm from Kochi and I know what I'm updating. You are replacing all these details with just the list of stations which doesn't give any idea about the project. - Shady59 (talk) 08:44, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The infobox reports on what *is* not what *could be in the future*, that's the essence of WP:Crystal. Saying that there are 3 lines, when actually in reality there is only 1 is very misleading. If you want to include information on potential future lines, then that can be included in the body of the text, but even then you risk "predicting the future". Encyclopedias don't report on what could be, they report on what is. So what you are doing is going against what encyclopedias do. I suspect you want to promote the metro or make it look bigger than it is. Mattximus (talk) 13:14, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, that policy does not have anything to do with proper citations (as you indicated in your revert), it has to do with predicting the future which you are doing. Mattximus (talk) 14:02, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

First of all, "Only present situation must be provided" is not a mandate of an infobox. Neither is "uc/planned musn't be provided". You must be familiar with WP:5P5. There are n number of rapid transit articles which gives all these details in the infobox. Secondly, it's not at all misleading. Keeping on repeating that it's misleading doesn't make it so. Where does it say that it has 3 lines? It clearly says that only 1 line is operational, 1 is approved & 1 is planned. I guess, anyone who understand English can clearly perceive. it. There is absolutely zero misleading here. The current infobox is anything but misleading. On top of that it's 100% informative and helpful since anyone can get a rough idea about the project from the infobox itself rather than going through a long article with more than 35 sections.

"Encyclopedias don't report on what could be, they report on what is." Really? I'm out of words for reply.

"I suspect you want to promote the metro or make it look bigger than it is." Again, really? So you're saying someone who reads 3 lines (1 Operational/under construction, 1 approved, 1 planned) will think that all 3 lines are operational? Or someone who reads Stations - Phase I - 24 (16 Operational) will think that all 24 stations are operational? -- Shady59 (talk) 12:11, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I think I've made a good compromise in my most recent edit. And yes, saying "Lines: 3" suggests that there are 3 lines, when in reality there is only 1 (even if later clarified). Planned and approved lines shouldn't be included at all, since it's crystal balling, but I left it in as a compromise. If you had it your way, it would be the only one out of hundreds of metro pages to have predictions instead of reality. I think we should both be happy with the current format. Any objections? Mattximus (talk) 13:03, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Network Map

The network map doesn't work for me, it just shows a map of Kochi without anything overlaid. Anyone else have this issue? Bellowhead678 (talk) 19:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)