Talk:King's Gallantry Medal

Police and fire services as military examples?

In the lede the article says "The medal is awarded for "exemplary acts of bravery", and is primarily a civilian medal, although military personnel can receive it for acts not in the face of the enemy, below the standard required to receive the George Medal. For example, it has been awarded to the Police and Fire and Rescue services" But in Britain the police and fire services are civilian. Shouldn't we be using a member of the armed services for this example? -- SiobhanHansa 18:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Former decorations of Australia

The last line of this entry 'Former decorations of Australia' seems irrelevant to this entry. It opens up to 'Australian Honours Order of Precedence prior to 6 October 1992'. They are not former decorations of Australia but Imperial (British) orders and decoration in which Australia was a full participant until 5 October 1992. Many of the orders and decorations are still listed in the Australian Order of Wear although if awarded after 5 October 1992 they will be treated as foreign awards. Australia like Britain has an Order of Wear not an Order of Precedence. There is a category 'civil bravery decorations' which is a made up category which would be better named 'Bravery awards' or 'Imperial (British) bravery awards' since it includes the Queen's Commendation for Brave Conduct which is not a decoration. You would think that the Queen's Gallantry Medal should be in this list since no less than 40 were awarded as a result of Australian Government or Australian State Government recommendations but it does include the four Albert Medals, Gold and Bronze, sea and land and the Edward Medal which were all abolished in 1971. After the New Year I will delete 'Former decorations of Australia' but would appreciate any comments in the meantime. Anthony Staunton (talk) 13:19, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

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Change of name to King's Gallantry Medal

This page has had it's name changed (as have others that link to it). There has not been an announcement, however, that the Queen's Gallantry Medal will become the King's Gallantry Medal. While that is likely, it is by no means assured. The change of name here is somewhat precipitous, though it is acknowledged that it has been done well by @Billytanghh. Nick Metcalfe (talk) 13:09, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

My third monarch. I cannot take all this change. In the case of the QGM I assume that there will be an amendment to the warrant either before or after the next gazettal of awards. In the case of the KCBC in 1952, the awards approved by the King before his death were gazetted as KCBCs and the next list approved by the new Queen were QCBCs. Anthony Staunton (talk) 12:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

I suspect that is exactly how it will be if the Sovereign agrees to the change in the case of the medal. I'd bet on a new Royal Warrant later rather than sooner! Nick Metcalfe (talk) 13:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Supplementary note re change of name to King's Gallantry Medal.

I have edited the article to more accurately describe the medal's history and criteria pending a potential name-change. This medal is unique amongst current British gallantry awards in that it is the only one likely to undergo such a change, and such a change is unprecedented. In consequence, I believe that it is important to include (and later leave in place) information about the era in which it was known as the Queen's Gallantry Medal. There is no information available at present to indicate that (a) the Sovereign will dictate a change of name (b) what that name will be, and (c) the medal's design. When such changes, if any, are made it would be appropriate to edit the article and to include, for example, a photo of the QGM obverse, any new obverse and and new reverse. Until then, as I said in my previous note, I believe that re-naming this article is precipitous. Nick Metcalfe (talk) 16:38, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Changes made to facts and for clarity

Now that this article has been reverted to QGM, I have again edited it to more accurately describe the medal's history and criteria - changes that were lost in the reversion. I have updated the London Gazette references and the total number of awards made. I have clarified the position of the medal vis a vis the former Colonial Police Medal for Gallantry and the Sea Gallantry Medal. In the case of the latter there remains no formal statement that it has fallen into abeyance. Nick Metcalfe (talk) 16:24, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

It de facto replaced awards of the Sea Gallantry Medal, but this has never been formally announced.

The suggestion that the QGM ‘de facto replaced awards of the Sea Gallantry Medal’ (SGM) is better addressed in the SGM article as ‘The most recent grant of the SGM was a bronze award in 1989. Although not formally abolished, it appears that the award has now fallen into disuse.’ Unlike current awards, the GC (which also appears to have fallen into disuse for civilian gallantry within the UK), the GM, and the QCB are single class awards compared to the SGM that had three classes, although gold, does not seem to have ever been issued, silver and bronze. Between 1856 and 1936, about 1800 awards were issued but since then less than fifty awards were awarded. Anthony Staunton (talk) 15:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)