Talk:Kim Ki-whang

June 2010

Added Projects - and category (Msrasnw (talk) 10:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC))

Sources

Our article on Kim must be verifiable—in other words, everything in the article must also appear in a reliable source. Any corrections or changes are very welcome, provided a reliable source is cited. In other words, we shouldn't say anything unless a reliable source says it. So in this case please do update or fix the article but you must say what your source is for the updates. For more information, please see our policy on verifiability.—S Marshall T/C 13:54, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello: Takeda Sōkaku was a master of aiki-jujitsu (Daito-ryu)(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeda_Sokaku), not Shudokan Karate which was founded by Toyama Kanken.(See your own article on Shudokan Karate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shudokan), Kanken Tōyama, and Takeda Sōkaku.)Your own article lists Ki Whang Kim as a student of Kanken Tōyama: Ki Whang Kim Shihan Nihon University.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanken_Toyama.

With respect. The article, as it stands now is really incorrect. It does a disservice to Ki Whang Kim, Kanken Tōyama, Takeda Sōkaku and all of their students and styles. Someone really needs to look this over again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.21.252.162 (talk) 15:20, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the revisions and reversion back to original Ki Whang Kim article.

Sources: http://www.kiwhangkimtmaa.com/founder http://www.kim-studio.com/AboutUs/grandmasterkim.html http://simbadojanghistory.blogspot.com/ http://ymaa.com/publishing/authors/richard_chun http://www.martialedge.net/articles/history/a-history-of-modern-taekwondo-part-1/1/

(Please read this last one carefully. It does not say that Ki Whang Kim studied with Sokaku Takeda. It says that Yong-Shul Choi claims to have studied with him.)This is the direct quote about Ki Whang Kim: "Ki-Whang Kim began judo in 1931 and earned his first dan from the Kodokan five years later. He went on to study karate-do at Nihon University in Tokyo, where he captained the team and was nicknamed "Typhoon." He later spent two years "studying kempo and kung-fu in China," probably as one of the draftees of the Japanese Army. Pyung-In Yun (b. 1918) was raised in Manchuria and studied quan-fa there before also attending college at Nihon University. He trained there with one of the faculty members, Kanken Toyama (1888-1966), who also happened to be the founder of Shudokan karate-do. Before Yun returned to Korea, Toyama recognized him as a fourth dan in his style.

There are many other sources that support the revised version of the article on Kim. The original, which is now posted is wrong! Kim was a very famous and respected martial artist. His information should be corrected.

Sorry, but it should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.21.252.162 (talk) 17:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

• You don't need to be sorry! Verifiable factual corrections are always welcome.

  That last source you have provided is the best of them. The others are less satisfactory for various reasons (blogs, or publications that are associated with the article's subject, are deprecated on Wikipedia) but the martialedge.net source looks good to me and I am happy for revisions based on it to be incorporated into the article.—S Marshall T/C 20:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Ki Whang Kim Article

Hi: Hope the changes are OK. Based on agreed upon source.

Thanks:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.21.252.162 (talk) 17:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good to me.  :)—S Marshall T/C 21:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know Ki Whang Kim was not a teacher of Richard Chun; please see Richard Chuns Biography "TKD spirit and practice; there is no mention of Kim being Chun's Teacher"

Also, Won Kuk Lee founded the Chung Do Kwon. Did you mean Chung do Kwan, or Chun Do Kwan? Please revisit these statements in the main article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kongsoodo (talk • contribs) 22:46, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Master Richard Chun

Actually in "TKD - Spirit and Practice" Master Chun mentions Ki Whang Kim in the Acknowledgemnets: "Grandmaster Ki Whang Kim from Silver Spring, Maryland, one of my early teachers, for his endless encouragement and support." Grandmaster Kim is mentioned in the "about the author" section of most of Mr. Chun's books as one of his teachers. Also, see the Black Belt Magazine ref. Jan, 1980.:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.21.252.162 (talk) 18:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

"chun do kwan"

I question this reference also. It was in the original unedited Wikipedia article. It appears to be a direct quote from Black Belt Magazine, Jan.1994, written at the time of his death. Not sure where this comes from or if they mean "Chung Do Kwan" ??????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.21.252.162 (talk) 18:21, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Fact check

You need to fact check anything you are going to write about my godfather because you are missing a lot and are INCORRECT as well as mislead 71.246.206.234 (talk) 04:28, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I am a student of a student of Master Kim who trained with him for many years. Just some suggestions, you might want to mention his school Kim Studios(In College Park, MD), and that it is still open. Also I believe from what I have been told by my Master he was a black belt in Aikido as well as the other ranks listed. Unfortunately I do not have a source other than word of mouth so I understand if you cannot add this information. Just wanted to share, thx. 71.191.68.68 (talk) 23:10, 18 April 2024 (UTC)