Talk:Killing of Kendall Carroll

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Requested move 12 September 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: I am going to close this as the originally proposed "Shooting" to get this RM out of the way. If there is later consensus to change "Shooting" to "Killing", this RM is not an obstacle to that. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 01:07, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kendall Carroll → Shooting of Kendall Carroll – This person is WP:NOTABLE enough for an article solely because of the shooting and, even if the article is expanded, the focus will remain on the circumstances around his death and the new name will better convey the actual contents. Similar fatal police shooting articles follow this proposed naming format, including in Albuquerque with the Shooting of Alfred Redwine and the Shooting of James Boyd. Thanks, RevelationDirect (talk) 17:49, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Similar RM I also proposed an RM of Parrish Dennison to Shooting of Parrish Dennison. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome right here. RevelationDirect (talk) 17:52, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. "Shooting of..." is standard form for English Wikipedia main title headers delineating fatal shootings of otherwise non-notable individuals. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Killing of Kendall Carroll – Carroll was killed. The guns did not just go off accidentally. Whether the killing was justified, or not, is a matter for the courts. We do not need to decide that. A justified killing is still a killing. If it wasn't, the term justified killing would be an oxymoron. We just need to determine if he was killed or died from natural or accidental causes, or suicide. Calling this article "Shooting of ..." is a euphemism. The fact that he was shot is not the most notable aspect of this subject. What is important is that he is dead and that his death because of the action of another human who intended to kill him, perhaps with good cause. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 18:31, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is a broader RM discussion you started here that would move the "Shooting of" articles to "Killing of" if there is such a consensus. I would favor renaming this article to either "Shooting of" or "Killing of" for now since there is a consensus that the current name does not describe the contents. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:29, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.