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Good articleKilham, Northumberland has been listed as one of the Geography and places good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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November 20, 2011Good article nomineeListed

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Reviewer: Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) 19:18, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will review tomorrow.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:18, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lead
  • "The parish has a population of 131." Which year was this?
Fixed. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:27, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Situated on the border with Scotland." On, or in close proximity to? (the dot on the map is quite some way away from the border)
Good point. This is quite an extensive parish, and the dot represents the hamlet after which the parish is named. The parish, rather than the hamlet, extends up to the Scottish border, and so can be said to be "on the border". This is surely appropriate, as the article discusses the whole parish, not merely the settlement after which it is named. Unfortunately, the maps used under the UK Infobox do not adequately represent the extent of civil parishes. Wording can be changed if you think it would help. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:27, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The situation was considered serious enough for a report to be made to the Privy Council of England about a raid in 1597, which had resulted in the death of several villagers." Sorry, I don't follow, how did that result in the death of villagers? Ah I see the raid had resulted in the deaths not that the Privy Council report resulted in deaths...
Hah! Poor punctuation now fixed. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:27, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
History
  • "Such hillforts were not necessarily defensible, and the small interior area of most suggests they were not permanent settlements." Ref needed.
Already given at end of paragraph. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A well preserved settlement at Longknowe is thought to be Romano-British, although this part of Northumberland lay beyond the Roman frontier for much of the period of occupation." Citation please.
Already given at end of paragraph. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Right up to the end of the 16th century, Kilham had suffered repeated Scottish incursions." Do we have a few examples and dates?
Paragraph goes on to discuss these. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Every valuation of the village's lands in the 15th century revealed a state of waste and destruction." Citation needed.
Now fixed. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The adoption of new agricultural techniques and improvements to the area's transport infrastructure resulted in greater prosperity for Kilham's farming community in the late 18th and 19th centuries." Ref needed.
Now fixed. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Farming at Kilham during most of the 20th century concentrated on rearing pedigree Aberdeen Angus cattle." Ref needed.
Already given at end of paragraph ("Kilham in the 20th Century"). Skinsmoke (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK that's fine, thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Government
  • Please wiki link Kilham, Coldsmouth and Thompson's Walls, Howtel and Pawston. Red links can be filled.
Puzzled by this one. Kilham should not be wikilinked as it would produce a cyclical wikilink leading back to this article. Howtel already is wikilinked. Coldsmouth and Thompson's Walls and Pawston are redirects leading back to Kilham, Northumberland, and so should not really be wikilinked.
On an aside, I am surprised you have moved "Public services" to be a subsection of "Economy". Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements suggests we should have a separate section. However, I think personally that if it is to move to a subsection, it would be better under "Governance". It doesn't really fit in with "Economy" somehow. Skinsmoke (talk) 19:33, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes , quite right. The point is that Coldsmouth and Thompson's Walls and Pawston should really have articles of their own, but if you want to redirect them and not link for now that's fine.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:54, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Transport
  • "The single-track line opened on 5 September 1887, having cost £272,267 to build." Citation please.
Already given at end of paragraph. Skinsmoke (talk) 19:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A goods and parcels service continued, but on 12 August 1948 torrential rain caused severe flooding, damaging the bridge over the Bowmont Water between Mindrum and Kilham." Citation please.
Already given at end of paragraph. Skinsmoke (talk) 19:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Culture
Images
Maps

Would be nice to a see a map or two of the parish or surrounding area. Consider cropping out a part of http://www.maps-for-free.com/ after zooming in and labelling settlements/features using paint or something. If you do so I'll show you the correct license once uploaded if you give me a bell.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:42, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
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    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
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Excellent job. If you could manage to get a photograph of buildings in the hamlet and make a map or two this would be great but obviously not compulsory.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

May be a problem. Have searched Geograph and nothing available. The mill pond in the infobox is the nearest image to the village itself. There are one or two images of the farm buildings (and a nice one of converted workshops) on the web, but they are not free images, and so cannot be used. With a bit of luck may get up there in 2012, and so may be able to do something then. Skinsmoke (talk) 03:49, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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