Talk:Khnum

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"Lord of things from himself" seems to be a bit of an improperly stated translation. I don't know whether that's a literal translation from the actual syntax of the original, or whether it just wasn't made completely right. But I suppose for an actual answer to that, we'd need to find out who actually wrote that part of the article.

Maybe "Lord of things created from himself" might make no sense?

It is probably less accurate than "Lord of created things from himself", which makes sense in Afro-Asiatic languages. "created things" is a noun (and in the original), rather than a verb clause. A more free translation would be "lord of created things, all of which he has created himself", but that doesn't sound like a proper title, so isn't really suitable. "lord of creation" wouldn't quite be accurate - "things" definitely needs to be in there, and it also needs to indicate that it is he who is their creator. "Lord and creator of created things" would be accurate, but again has issue of not sounding like a proper title, but only a description. ~~~~ 06:55, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Chnoumis redirects here

Yet this doesn't seem to be the same Egyptian god as Chnoubis (Xnoubis, Chnoumis, Chnuphis). Could someone make such a page, possibly? 216.227.117.69 (talk) 18:18, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly, they are, in fact, the same god in origin. See e.g. Attilo Mastrocinque’s From Jewish Magic to Gnosticism, p. 155-158, for a good scholarly discussion of Chnoubis and Khnum:

“Chnum, the Egyptian creator, had been a very familiar figure to the Jews of the Elephantine garrison, where he had a temple near that of the Jewish creator, locally known as YHW (Iaô)... from this site there is also a blessing in the name of YHW and Chnub. The original name of the Egyptian Decan of Leo was Knm, and so the initial aspirate of Chnoubis is the result of combining the two deities, Knm and Chnum, while the snake-like appearance is witness to the influence of the creator snake of Theban cosmogony, Kmeph/Knef. ... Chnoubis, the god of the Nile flood, had sent the deluge to kill the giants. Therefore the sign of Chnoubis had a positive meaning... The cycles of Nile flood celebrations were the high point of the religious life of the peoples of Egypt. The flood brought benefits to everyone, including the Jews, and so they too must have devised cults that allowed them to take part in the common thanksgiving to the god who had blessed the earth. This is why Chnoubis/Chnoumis came to be equated with the Jewish god...”

and regarding the Chnoubis amulets, on p. 64:

“The power of all these magical gems resided in the notion that, as the god who regulated the Nile flood, Chnoubis/Chnum could also regulate menstruation, stimulate the flow of breast milk, and stop haemorrhaging, bleeding ulcers, and abnormal digestive juices in the stomach.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.189.124.244 (talk) 21:49, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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