Talk:Key Sounds Label/GA1
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[edit]- I hesitated to review this article because the lead paragraph is very confusing. There is Key Sounds Label, there is Key, the software company, there is Visual Arts (which is a subsidiary of Key the software company) and Key Sound Label which is a subsidiary of Visual Arts? I had the read the lead paragraph over and over, and even now, when you use "Key" subsequently I am not sure which company you mean? I assume in the following sections, when you use "Key" you mean Key Records label. Is there a way you could be more clear about the relationships between these various companies?
- Basically, if we're talking about the record label, Key Sounds Label is used. If we're talking about the software company, then Key is used. We can't make any more distinction since both companies share the word "Key" in their titles, so Key Sounds Label is always used in reference to the label. Visual Art's is a publishing company, and both Key and Key Sounds Label are brands under that company.--十八 22:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Otherwise, the article looks good. I will post following comments here. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Skimming the rest of the article, I find it confusing also. For example, your first sentence under History is "Key Sounds Label's origins begin two years before the first album on the label was released. In 1999." However, the first sentence of the following paragraph is: "In 2001, Visual Art's and Key decided to form Key Sounds Label..." I think I understand what you mean here, but it is confusing until it is read through a couple of times. Perhaps if you reversed the order of the information, that would help. Key Sounds Label started in 2001. It had its origins in 1999.
- I'm not sure I entirely agree. Chronologically, shouldn't what occurred before the label's formation come first as a form of background information to show how the label eventually came into being? That's how I tried to write it anyway. I rewrote the first two sentences; is that clearer now?--十八 23:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Even though you have Comiket linked, it might help the reader if you said "first released at the convention, Comiket..." or something like that.
- In the next sentence, you use Key but then in the following one you say Key Sounds Label. Are you distinguishing here between the software company and the label?
- Exactly. You see, at Comiket there is no "Key Sounds Label" booth, there is a Key/Visual Art's booth which often sells Key Sounds Label singles and albums at the convention.--十八 22:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- "Most of the releases on the label contain music directly related to Key's visual novels,..." Does this mean that the primary reason for the existence of Key Sounds Label is to release music related to Key's (the software company's) visual novels. If this is so, that should be very clear in the lead.
- I thought it was; guess I'll be rewording things.--十八 22:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- I am having difficulty understanding the article, perhaps because I am not familiar with the subject matter. However, the article should be accessible to all readers, even those unfamiliar. Maybe you could provide more context and a little background to what you are describing in the article for those unfamiliar.
- It is difficult to evaluate the references, as the ones in English seem mostly to be track listing.
- Mostly track listings, yes, but there is valuable info on each of the ones I linked, such as catalog number, release date, release situation (like in a special event), and who worked on the album.--十八 22:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- You have improved it immensely and made it much clearer. Do the references also cover the company history etc.?
- I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about just the Japanese cites, or all the references, used in the history section? Please clarify.--十八 22:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- I am talking about the references regarding history. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- What about them? The references used in the history section cite what they cite to reflect the history of the label from formation until today. If your question is, are there any references that specifically outline the history of the label, then no, except perhaps the online discography, but even then some of the albums released on the label aren't on the online discography, as explained in the history section.--十八 23:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- O.K. I am accepting that what you have put in the history section is referenced and not OR.
- What about them? The references used in the history section cite what they cite to reflect the history of the label from formation until today. If your question is, are there any references that specifically outline the history of the label, then no, except perhaps the online discography, but even then some of the albums released on the label aren't on the online discography, as explained in the history section.--十八 23:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I just want to make sure that every time you use Key by itself, you mean the company.
- Yes, as I have explained above, or else it'd be too confusing.--十八 22:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Article passed GA.