Talk:Kevin McNamara (politician)

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Category:People of Irish descent in Great Britain

Another user has returned this category to the article after I removed it, although the article does not show any evidence that it is true, and in fact does not even mention his ethnicity. Neither does the one actual source on the article. This is contrary to our policy WP:BLP and I give notice that I intend to remove it again, unless it can be properly referenced. Categories are not immune from WP:BLP or from WP:V. Similarly I don't think we can go on stating that he is a Catholic without verifiable evidence. --John (talk) 22:10, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh for goodness sake, John, your campaign against these categories is getting incredibly silly if you want to remove those two points from an article on McNamara. He was known throughout his parliamentary career as a vocal advocate of an Irish Catholic viewpoint, so there is no way in any sane person with even a little familiarity with British politics would regard the attachment of those labels to him as controversial per WP:BLP. A quick bit of googling would confirm all that for you if you are concerned about it. Here are few refs for starters: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and you can easily find more if you want them.

This is not a BLP issue, because it is not controversial. A very quick search would have confirmed for you that these two points are easily confirmed as the defining aspects of McNamara's 40-year political career, and the absence of references to reliable sources means that they should be tagged with {{fact}} tags, not removed.

What's all this about? Do you think that being Irish and Catholic is some sort of negative attribute? Is that why you are pursuing their use with such determination? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just good old WP:V and WP:BLP, BHG. Sheesh. Pop your references in without grouching about it in future; they should have already been there. --John (talk) 03:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good old WP:V and WP:BLP do not require the removal of non-contentious points which lack references; they require that references should be added. Please stop misusing policies in pursuit of this disruption. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are factually incorrect. I have pointed out your misunderstanding of BLP in the archived section at my talk. The policy specifically says that negative, positive or neutral material which is unreferenced should be removed if it is any way contentious. I urge you to refer to that conversation and also to Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Ethnic categories before you issue any further silly accusations. --John (talk) 05:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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