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Otto Maenchen-Helfen, Huns and Hsiung-nu, Byzantion 17 (1944—45) 222—243. On p. 224, Maenchen-Helfen observed that there lived in Xiongnu empire the ancestors of the present-day Ket or Yenissei-Ostiaks, and some of the Xiongnu words might have been borrowed from the Proto-Ket. See also L. Ligeti, Mots de civilisation de Haute Asie en transcription chinoise, AOH I (1950), 141—185.

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This is the best that can be done, given the information presented. The article needs to be enlarged. There is more information in the External links (especially the second one).

I'm removing the copyedit tag. KarenAnn 17:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

language of Kets

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The Ket language is a language isolate like Basque in Spain, completely unrelated to neighboring This is no one word about neighboring with Northern Caucasian and Sino-Tibetan languages.Attempts have been made by Russian scholars to establish a relationship with Burushaski or the Sino-Tibetan languages, and Yeniseian frequently forms part of the Dene-Caucasian hypothesis or variants thereof. The genetic relations between Yeniseian languages and Na-Dene also were proposed by the american linguist Vajda, a specialist about Haida, although he does not agree with the further proposed relations with Caucasian languages.TYPIK ANTI-CAUCASIAN STUPID FASCIST PROPAGANDA! Where Starostin and Djakonoff? American linguist Vajda is 0! American linguist Vajda not agree because CAUCASIAN (EUROPEAN) ORIGIN OF N-CAUCASIANS. He is racist. According to Starostin-Djakonoff old pure macrocaucasians (sino-tibetan-yenisseyan-caucasian) were EUROPEAN (CAUCASIAN).


This section should likely be rewritten to note the new evidence that Kets is related to the Na-Dené language family.

Jhaasdijk (talk) 22:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


What evidence? That assertion is made without any supporting reference, and since it's a claim that contradicts the current consensus of linguists and archaelologists (and ordinary probability), it needs MUCH supporting evidence before being included in an encyclopedia. Steve Graham (talk) 13:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i added 3 refs (while not logged in), but im not sure its enough documentation for this very interesting assertion. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Genetic origin of Kets

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This paragraph was obviously done by someone, who is not an expert in modern population genetics. The Kets posess Y-haplogroup Q that was typical for Siberian Paleoindians ca. 20 000 years ago. Today, this Y-haplogroup is siginificantly present in Kets, Selkups, Yukaghirs, Nivkhi, Eskimos and American Indians. Y-haplogroup Q comes from a lineage P, to which also lineage R (R1a, R1b, R2) belongs. The highest percentage of R-men can now be found in Europe, especially in Spain and among Celtic groups in the British Isles, where subclade R1b1c makes up 90-100% of all male lineages. Hence the statement in the paragraph is misleading. It is based on (from today's perspective) archaic genetic studies that were not able to distinguish between R and Q. 82.100.61.114 16:05, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the misleading passage about the genetics of Kets. 82.100.61.114 22:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Spirit images, their names and production

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Add'l info from Dr Varja:

"I can give you some information about the Ket spirit images. The Kets are careful not to call them 'dolls' since they regard them as serious adult objects, which house a female forest spirit who protects the family. They are passed down in the family to the youngest son. The other sons must make their own images by cutting wood out of a living Siberian pine tree (called a 'cedar' tree in Siberia). This tradition still exists, which is why the Ket man in the Herzog movie was so sad when he lost his in a fire. They are called 'allel' or 'allal' (that's the singular form), or allalbaam (baam means 'old woman'). I guess in English, you would put an /s/ on the end for the plural. The Ket plural would be /allal-bamang/."

I'll be using this info to improve the article. Temerarius (talk) 03:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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