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A fact from Kendra Pierre-Louis appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 January 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that climate journalist Kendra Pierre-Louis is a critic of mayonnaise?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kendra Pierre-Louis.

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 11:52, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that climate journalist Kendra Pierre-Louis is a critic of mayonnaise, even writing a long form essay documenting the science of that disgust in Popular Science? Source:"Mayonnaise is disgusting, and science agrees". Popular Science. Retrieved 2020-12-15. -- but also in other interviews with her and her twitter handle
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by Sadads (talk). Self-nominated at 13:35, 15 December 2020 (UTC). Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Kandy Tuskers in 2020[reply]

i'll review this Mujinga (talk) 15:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: - ?
Overall: I'd say the QPQ review is still in progress, since you haven't addressed all five of the Wikipedia:Did_you_know#Eligibility_criteria. For the rest, hook is quirky and article is ok, the first sentence in "career" has five references on it and one is doubled. Mujinga (talk) 15:16, 20 December 2020 (UTC) @Mujinga: Not sure what you mean by QPQ not done: Template:Did you know nominations/Kandy Tuskers in 2020 -- I made a mistake and another editor gave additional feedback (see User_talk:Sadads#Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Kandy_Tuskers_in_2020 -- it seems to be just fine, in terms of getting worked out....Sadads (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hiya what i meant is "the review must address all five criteria listed here" on Wikipedia:Did_you_know#Eligibility_criteria and i don't see the review addressing the length of the article, its newness, copyvio check etc. maybe you did all of this, but i'm not seeing it. if you use the template then it's more clear to me. hope that helps. Mujinga (talk) 16:50, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That has never been part of the process... I have been doing dyks for ten years ... I don't know what you are asking for -- I said it passed, the concern from the other editor was clarity of the hook, not that the criteria was wrong. I am very confused by what that would effect by QPQ, Sadads (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sadads: a QPQ review should explicitly confirm that the five main DYK criteria have been met. Your review only confirmed that the hook fact was verified (I think). An optional Reviewer's Template is located above the edit window. Best, Yoninah (talk) 19:56, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I said it passed the review with the DYKtick, that means I confirmed all 5 criteria .... you don't have to explicit state that in the template... again been doing this for 10 years, you are insisting on process which simply isn't in the playbook. Sadads (talk)

@Sadads: sorry to say, but you have not been doing QPQs for 10 years because they haven't been in force for so long. The QPQ requirement specifically states: Qualifying QPQs need to be full reviews, and not simply a "check mark." To acknowledge your good faith effort, I'm happy to donate a QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Hermann Schey. Next time, please list the criteria you checked. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Yoninah for the courtesy. Mujinga (talk) 23:45, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The “Personal life” section is ill-named, given its content, but more important, putting the Mayo info part of it is at best bizarre, if not mocking of someone entitled to more respect. Put this:

Pierre-Louis is a first-generation American born to Haitian parents, and was raised speaking Spanish and Haitian Creole.^[1]

She has a Master of Science in Science Writing from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, a Master of Art in Sustainable Development from the SIT Graduate Institute, and a Bachelor of Art in Economics from Cornell University.^[2] During her graduate studies, she received a Taylor/Blakeslee University Fellowship for science writing.^[3]

in the lead, as ident/ intro or some more specfic title, and this:

She has repeatedly criticized mayonnaise,^[4]^[1] going so far as to publish an essay in Popular Science in 2017, calling the condiment "disgusting".^[5]

As a final ==trivia== secn. Or, at least, give it appropriate context Explaining its relevance without such a high hazard of appearing to be mocking her.

—2601:199:C201:FD70:59B5:A405:E3E8:7427 (talk) 11:10, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, she has a wide reputation for the mayonnaise thing -- its somethings she is proud of (i.e. in her twitter bio). Its not trivia -- in that its something she discusses quite widely -- so I feel comfortable leaving it (also confirmed with her that it was a good thing to include in a direct message with her).Sadads (talk) 14:06, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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^ ^a ^b "Threshold Conversations with Kendra Pierre-Louis". Threshold. Retrieved December 15, 2020.
^ Cite error: The named reference :0 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ "Five awarded Taylor/Blakeslee University Fellowships for 2015-16 | Council for the Advancement of Science Writing". casw.org. Retrieved December 15, 2020.
^ Cite error: The named reference :4 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ "Mayonnaise is disgusting, and science agrees". Popular Science. Retrieved December 15, 2020.

[:2-1] "Threshold Conversations with Kendra Pierre-Louis". Threshold. Retrieved December 15, 2020.

[:0-2] Cite error: The named reference :0 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[3] "Five awarded Taylor/Blakeslee University Fellowships for 2015-16 | Council for the Advancement of Science Writing". casw.org. Retrieved December 15, 2020.

[:4-4] Cite error: The named reference :4 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[5] "Mayonnaise is disgusting, and science agrees". Popular Science. Retrieved December 15, 2020.

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