Talk:Kavarna

Etymology

The Romanian theory that the name Kavarna derived from Vlach cărbune (coal) because "the inhabitants of the land were producing charcoal from the woods in the region" is dubious, as there were no major forests in the steppes surrounding the town. In that time and later, the densely wooded Strandzha mountain region in present-day southeastern Bulgaria was traditional supplier of charcoal (traded for wheat) to both Varna and Southern Dobruja.

There are no major forests today. The association carvuna - charcoal is possible, if you consider that mangal (in Mangalia) means charcoal too (in turkish).Anonimu 11:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there are no other historical Vlach toponyms anywhere on the entire Dobruja coast. By the time Kavarna received its present name, it was populated mostly by Gagauz who perhaps contributed most decisively to the name.

That is not a reason for denying a romanian connectionAnonimu 11:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, it is historically incorrect to use the term "Romanian" instead of "Vlach" regarding events prior to the time Vlachs started calling themselves "Romanians." In the 15th century, when the name Kavarna was first mentioned, "Romania" was the name of what we now call "Byzantium" and nothing else. The Crusaders marching to the battle of Varna in 1444 travelled along the Varna lakes and on their south were the "mountains, separating Bulgaria from Romania".

So how did the vlachs call themselves before starting calling themselves Romanians?Anonimu 11:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

66.65.15.134 03:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Karinovasi, Karanovasa?

Hi folks. I have a historical question: is there any archaeological evidence that Kavarna is the same as place Karinovasi-Karanovasa (battle of Mircea the Elder/"Mircea cel Bătrân" against the ottomans in 1393-94)? Some historians are placing it on Arges River in Romania but others are talking about Kavarna. Thanks. Bigshotnews 00:19, 28 May 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigshotnews (talk • contribs)

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