Talk:Karn Evil 9

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Interpretation - who wins?

On WBMFTTSTNE, "Rejoice! Glory is ours!" is sung by the Man, not the Computer. That would suggest, together with "the tapes have recorded their names," that Man has defeated the computers but not freed himself from dependence on them. Comments? Are the lines sung by different voices in the studio recording?

The line is always sung by Lake. However this does not change the fact that many (including myself) believe that the song describes the victory of the computers. (Didn't Bush declare 'victory in Iraq' about 5 years ago?) The point is that humans have been subjugated by the computers, hence the closing lines "I let you live/I'm perfect, are you?" One should give more weight to these final lines since they imply that the human is spin-doctoring by saying "glory is ours" - this is also attested by the fact that the "tapes have recorded their names" - it is therefore the computers, not the humans, who have dictated the terms of the outcome of the war (all computer storage at the time was on magnetic tape). In short: Computers win, humans are enslaved (and delusional - Lake himself has strongly connected Karn Evil 9 with 21st Century Schizoid Man). In fact, it seems to me that this article is grossly and totally incorrect in saying there is no connection between the 1st and 3rd impressions. Like Tarkus, Karn Evil 9 is a story of 'reverse evolution': Part 1 describes the RESULT of the war in Part 3: A post-apocalyptic wasteland. --119.225.64.161 (talk) 23:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interpretation Copyright problem

The Interpretation section is a word-for-word lift from this page and could be a copyright violation or, if posted by the author, considered original research. It should probably be reworded or removed. RandyKaelber 19:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Get me "Rewrite"

With apologies to the primary author of this article - I realize ELP's fan base is probably as extensive among non-English speakers than Anglophones if not more so - but the grammar and syntax of this article are just abysmal.

I'll see if I have time to clean it up, but be aware that the writing is confusing, verging on nonsense. B. Polhemus (talk) 07:05, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected info about the solo in "Karn Evil 9 Second Impression" and replaced non-germane reference to one quoting Emerson directly

The previous author appeared to have conflated the Minimoog that was set to imitate a steelpan (a tuned percussion instrument, also known as "steel drums" or "pans" originating from Trinidad and Tobago and usually associated with Carribean-style music) for the solo in the Second Impression with the drumkit used by Carl Palmer, which was fabricated by British Steel for Palmer with shells made of 1/2"-thick stainless steel. In this case, the description "steel drums" refers to two different things.

I can't speak to exactly how the Minimoog would have been patched but I know that complex timbres like that of a steelpan can be made with a ring modulator (which Emerson's Moog Modular would have had) or by audio-range amplitude, frequency, or phase modulation of the oscillator frequency or similar modulation of filter cutoff frequency. The Minimoog would have been able to use its third oscillator to modulate the frequency of the other two oscillators or the filter cutoff frequency at audio frequency ranges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.157.54.144 (talk) 03:51, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]