Talk:Karai-karai

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Is this relevant?

We know that this is a Chadic language, which is of course part of the Afroasiatic language family, so I was wondering if this should be removed as it is redundant?

"Many Karai-Karai words share a common origin with the Northwest Semitic languages of Hebrew and Arabic. Languagemaniac234555 (talk) 01:53, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move request: Consider consistency with MediaWiki, October 9 2023

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It was proposed in this section that Karai-Karai be renamed and moved to Karekare language.

result:
Moved to Karai-karai. See below that this appears to be the highest and best title for this article. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 12:31, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Karai-Karai → Karekare language
– Based on gerrit:956028 we now decide to use "Karekare" as the main English name and "Karai-karai" (lowercase k after dash) as the language autonym. We should probably consider move this page to one of them. -- 36.225.107.77 (talk) 15:55, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative suggestion by nom: Karai-Karai → Karai-karai (lowercase second letter "k") P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 16:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This request had to be fixed for the RMCD bot by adding Karekare → Karekare (disambiguation), because pages with content, such as Karekare, are ineligible to be proposed titles in move requests unless they, too, are formally dispositioned. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 16:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. -- 36.225.107.77 (talk) 16:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I support moving/renaming of the page as that will provide more consistency and clear representation of the subject however, I do not support using Karekare language as the new title but instead Karai-karai language because Karekare is considered wrong and disapproved by the speakers. De-Invincible (talk) 14:17, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. -- 122.100.88.72 (talk) 15:07, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Number of speakers

The number of speakers seems overestimated. This 30 January 2020 modification by Moses Enouch Musa changed it from 150,000 (1993) based on Ethnologue 18 to 1,500,000 (2003) without changing the reference, and this 1 July 2020 modification by M.I Musaddam changed it to 1.8 million (2010) with the reference changed to Ethnologue 26 in a 20 Octobrer 2023 modification by Paine Ellsworth. The paywalled Ethnologue 27 Karekare page shows a population between 10K and 1M. Unless something else happened, it seems like the different population updated in those modification did not actually use Ethnologue. The article Musa Bate Barde, "Language Revitalization in Karai-karai: An Effective Tool Against Language Endangerment in Nigeria", Sahel International Multidisciplinary Journal (SIMJ), vol. 5, no. 1,‎ October 2021, p. 52 shows an estimate of over 500,000 speakers in 2006 by the Karai-karai Bible translation committee. Maybe that is a better estimate? Is there an actual reference for the 1.8M estimate? -- Moyogo/ (talk) 10:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]