Talk:Karabakh Council

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Failed verification: relevance to the Artsakh province

It came to my attention that the source either was not properly quoted or just fails the verification.

Quote: The council's statehood related to the historical Artsakh province and the modern-day self-proclaimed Republic of Artsakh founded in 199

Provided source: The Council Encyclopedia of the stateless nations 2002 Page 901

Provided source quote: "The section is separated from the Republic of Armenia by some 15 miles of Azeri territory, which has been under Karabakhi and Armenian occupation since 1993. Nagornu-Karabakh was declared independent as the Republic of Artsakh in January 1992. Artsakh's status remains unsettled. Officially the area forms an autonomous district of the Republic of Azerbaidzhan. Republic of Artsakh (Na^orno-Karabakb): 1,699 sq. mi.— 4,402 sq. km, (20O2e) ..."

I have not found any reference to the "historical Artsakh province" neither in the quoted source nor in the page quote.

Shall be deleted. Hew Folly (talk) 21:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A strange 1918-1920 map with a toponym that did not exist back then

It came to my attention that the map provided by @Nunuxxx has several issues.

First, it is described as the map depicting the "Map of the Karabakh Council" during the "1918–1920" period.

First, no references are provided.

Second, "Shahumyan" appeared on the map of Azerbaijan only in 1938, and its original name was Aşağı Ağcakənd(Russian: Нижний Агджакенд)[1]. The Turkic toponym was renamed to Shahumyan in the name of Stepan Shahumyan, a Russian bolshevik leader, known for his participation in the Baku March 1918 massacre.

Shall be deleted. Hew Folly (talk) 21:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Hew Folly, thank you for your constructive feedback regarding the map! I note that I am the original creator of it. I also note that the names of cities/settlements are not intended to match their names at the time nor present; they are presented in endonymic (Armenian language) form as the Karabakh Council was a predominantly Armenian polity. The map itself was made by overlaying maps of the First Republic of Armenia in Google Earth Pro and tracing the borders of the Karabakh Council according to its natural geographical border (along mountain peaks, etc). I plan to remake it in future in SVG form with more detailed toponymy, noting the old and present names. I hope this explanation answers your concerns. Best, – Olympian ^loquere 00:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure, respectable @Olympian. It is commendable that you have decided to improve the project.

I just didn't quite understand how a political organization can have natural borders.

Please, take into consideration, that throughout the 1918-1920 Azerbaijani-Armenia war, the area of control was constantly changing and did not always correspond or restricted by the natural borders.

Regards, Hew Folly (talk) 02:06, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]