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Merge proposal

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The result was NOT to merge into KQMV. --      Hydroxonium (talk) 09:31, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The content at this article should be merged into the article at KQMV. Information about a radio station that has a continual license history should be contained in a single article about that station at its current call sign. Mlaffs (talk) 13:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this is the right place to say it, but I just tonight out of the blue thought to search Wikipedia for my old absolute all-time favorite radio station, KZAM-FM, Seattle Washington. God, I loved that radio station. Those women disc jockeys were wonderful, their wit and taste superb, their music choices sublime. They showcased a golden age of popular music as none other, head and shoulders above the rest. Whoever made it happen was some kind of genius with some kind of exquisite taste. And, I had the great good fortune to recognize it at the time. And their formula, it was so simple; if it was beautiful, they would play it; if it wasn't, they wouldn't. Period. They probably didn't get rich, hell, they might have had trouble breaking even for all I know. They're gone now, but I still think about those days, the radio just hasn't measured up since. Did you know the simple act of stringing three pieces of music together can strike sparks between the human heart and mind? Trigley (talk) 05:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional Oppose as long as it was owned by a different company, ran different programming, and had a different call sign then KQMV, it would be confusing to merge as they were completely different station -- GoldMan60 ¤ Talk  23:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Point of Information Nothing in the existing KZAM Wiki addresses or acknowledges the fact there was a previous KZAM on 92.5 in Seattle. That station, known by it's moniker "KAY-zam!, was Seattle's first all-black-format music station. It went on the air in 1961 and lasted until late 1964. Its broadcasting facilities were in a hole-in-the-wall studio on 24th & E. Union. The station featured such illustrious northwest radio pioneers as Bob Summerise (who'd previously worked at KQDE) and Fitzgerald Beaver, who went on to found and publish The Facts newspaper. Other original KZAM air personalities included Larry Braxton and "Mr. Century." On Saturday afternoons, the station gave five hours of programming over to local high schools. In 1962-63 it was students from Franklin High, in 1964 kids from Garfield got the slot. Franklin core staff included Jeff Jassen (later known as Jef Jaisun, see www.jaisunphoto.com), Chairman, FHS KZAM Committee and Assistant Station Manager; Mike LaPonte, student Station Manager; Rita Pulido; Penny Matthews; Ed Wright; Lyla Tsuji. Franklin student Ken Levine, who had also done some youthful dj work at KOL-AM, did at least one air shift at KZAM.

Stu Ballinger and his group, who eventually bought the frequency from Kemper Freeman (as KFKF-FM) and turned the station into KBES-FM prior to it's 1975 KZAM reincarnation, were unaware of the earlier KZAM history. They chose the calls by pure coincidence.

The only way a merger makes sense is if you merge both KZAMs, KFKF, KBES, KLSY, KQMV and whatever else has happend on 92.5 Bellevue/Seattle into one large historical timeline. But any and all individual Wikis should be cross-referenced. -- eljefe (at) eljefe (dot) net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.37.116 (talk) 20:55, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you can cite sources regarding the earlier incarnation of KZAM, please write an article about it. We can figure out how to disambiguate the titles. --Orlady (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I worked there. I was part of the Franklin High student staff. I have photos taken at the station, and an article from the Franklin High Tolo newspaper announcing the agreement and staff. Much of this was collated into a binder when I applied for a position at the newer KZAM in 1975. The original KZAM-FM is referenced in an article on Seattle musician Dave Lewis at Historylink.org. http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm& How would you like me to proceed? BigshirtXL (talk) 23:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That link doesn't work for me... --Orlady (talk) 04:19, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. It died for me, too. Try http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=8684 Scroll down to the sub-head "David's Mood." The reference is at the end of the second paragraph. BigshirtXL (talk) 16:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow -- that's a thorough biography of a most interesting musician. Unfortunately, as respects KZAM, at most it supports a statement that there was once an R&B station in Seattle called KZAM. I can't find anything else about it on the Internet, but if you can find print sources (such as newspaper clippings), they could be cited in an article here. --Orlady (talk) 16:59, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Right. But it establishes a date for the original KZAM as 1962, 13 years before the second KZAM appeared. I can scan you the Franklin Tolo article from September 25, 1962, which is hanging on my wall. If I can find the binder I prepared in 1975, it has photos of the studio, staff members and owner Monty Strohl in his office. Somewhere I also have at least one copy of the "K-ZAM KaZette," the station's newsletter that included the weekly Hot 150 playlist. (Yeah, we had 150 singles in a 45 rack on the control board. The albums were in pegboard racks behind us.) BigshirtXL (talk) 17:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, here you go. 1963 edition of Broadcasting Yearbook, published by Broadcasting Magazine, Page B-198: "KZAM 92.5 FM, Foremost Broadcasting. Began broadcasting: Nov. 20 1961. 100% black music format. Monty Strohl - Owner; Larry Braxton - Assistant Manager; Ernie Opel - Chief Engineer. Mailing address: P.O. Box 12767, Seattle 22, WA. Telephone: EA 4-8515." The station's physical address was 2401 E. Union, Seattle. The broadcasting tower and transmitter shack were located on Cougar Mountain, outside Issaquah, WA, roughly 18 miles from downtown Seattle. I visited the facility several times with Ernie. At the time, Cougar Mountain was the site of most Seattle area FM towers. Probably still is. BigshirtXL (talk) 18:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I oppose the merger. Instead of trying to write a single article about an FCC license that has been used for different call signs, formats, and ownerships over the years, let's keep this stand-alone article about a radio station that existed with one particular call sign, format, and ownership for a specific period. Readers are interested in stations, not licenses. This is not a case of a station that changed formats over the years, or changed ownership while keeping the same format, and there's plenty of sourced content to justify a stand-alone article about KZAM. The various articles about other users of the license can reference each other. --Orlady (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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