Talk:K-hole

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the K-hole article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Pharmacology

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pharmacology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Pharmacology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PharmacologyWikipedia:WikiProject PharmacologyTemplate:WikiProject Pharmacologypharmacology articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Psychology

	Psychology portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Psychology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Psychology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PsychologyWikipedia:WikiProject PsychologyTemplate:WikiProject Psychologypsychology articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Psychoactive and Recreational Drugs (defunct)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Psychoactive and Recreational Drugs, a project which is currently considered to be defunct.Psychoactive and Recreational DrugsWikipedia:WikiProject Psychoactive and Recreational DrugsTemplate:WikiProject Psychoactive and Recreational DrugsPsychoactive and Recreational Drugs articles

This article was nominated for deletion on 21 December 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

Untitled

Red Link from the Ketamine page. K69 (talk) 02:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the worst articles I've ever read on Wikipedia.

This article is a neologism and contains no referenced material. Nominated for deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.41.173 (talk) 21:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree. 6 years later & this article is being praised by readers, despite it being an improper interpretation of the term "k-hole" & was seemingly written from a subjective & uninformed perspective. It would annoy me as a comment on a drug use forum; as a Wikipedia article, lacking in evidence-based material or any factual/objective content whatsoever, I have to second this nomination for deletion. There's enough dis- & misinformation elsewhere on the internet, can we agree that Wikipedia's purpose is to be a beacon in a virtual world oversaturated with uninformed ideas posited as truth? 204.111.195.205 (talk) 18:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the best articles I've ever read on Wikipedia.

It contains lots of sources about a "k hole" and reading it reminds me of previous experiences. With other drug trips, it's usually always different. With Ketamine, it's usually always the same. A "k hole" is the only way to describe it. And, since you have a major article on ketamine, describing it's main effect then warrants it's own article.

I vote to keep this article. Don't delete an article about talking with god K69 (talk) 17:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another Reference

In one of the South Park episodes the doctor orders nnn cc's of Ketamine, but doctor says it is for him not the patient. --Lindy (talk) 21:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the best articles i've ever seen...

I appreciate that it has not been deleted. It's straightforward and to the point while describing a real phenomena. I wish there were more references though. Killemall22 (talk) 20:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete this article.

I have personally experienced the symptoms described in the article during a medical treatment in Congo which left me in a state of shock for months. Reading this article was very helpful since now my experience seems less uncommon and is in fact rather well documented. Thanks for not deleting the article! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humbertoldi (talk • contribs) 10:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate interpretation for the term "K hole".

K is classed as a "dissociative" and this medical term seems to include the currently offered explanation. The K-hole therefore does not refer to the experience of the dissociative state - as suggested - but rather the effects that accumulate with long term use. Since the chemical is short acting and produces psychological dependence, the K-hole describes the process of becoming addicted. If you are in the K hole, it means you are a regular user and can no longer distinguish your internal experiences from objective reality. John Lilly and Marcia Moore are examples of people who entered the K -hole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.228.55.4 (talk) 07:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

^^what? -k-hole does NOT mean addiction. the k-hole is when you take a large enough dose to basically knock you out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.180.143 (talk) 01:03, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ketamine

It’s bad 207.161.57.138 (talk) 03:20, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This Article contains misinformation

The K-Hole refers to a special dissociative, psychedelic hallucinogenic trance like state, in which the consumer of the drug is unable to move, it's dissociative even in lower doses though.

I wonder how someone can be in a state of violent agitation, even when unable to move. I'd like a proper source on that, that's not a healthline article.

The article claims Ketamine being a date rape drug, because it is supposedly odorless and tasteless (which is objectively not true, as Ketamine has a bitter taste (5/6 Beginning of Third Paragraph is a source from a study I could find, there are more non scientifically sourced reports of its bitter taste online)).

The dosage you'd need to hole is pretty high, even without tolerance it's around 200mg+, which would leave a bitter taste in a drink. 193.159.102.166 (talk) 17:59, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I took the liberty of nuking that section. It was poorly written, wrong and only tangentially related to K-Holes. Spolglans (talk) 03:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]