Talk:Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ/Archive 1

Archive 1

K. Tatlıtuğ's father

Please stop the edit war.. his father is ethnically Turkish you can google for it his name is Erdem Tatlıtuğ, but with Turkish-Yugoslav ancestry. 95.114.3.96 (talk) 22:43, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

His father's name is Erdem and mother's name is Nurten. Both are fully Turkish names. Having a grandparent from Yugoslavia doesn't rule you out from being Turkish as there were and still are Turks there. In fact, about 30% of the population of Turkey are Balkan Turks - descendants of the huge Turkish communities that lived in the Balkans until murder and ethnic cleansing operations against them there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.231.85.101 (talk) 07:43, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

He is a Turk

What is this nonsense here about Kıvanç being "Bosnian"? This is just speculation by some gossip media in former Yugoslavian countries and not based on any fact. They are just trying to claim someone famous and good looking as their own like all other people do.

Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ is a 200% Turkish name, he is born and raised in Adana (like his parents), speaks Turkish as his mother tongue and most importantly Kıvanç has never stated he's bosnian or anything of the sort. He just once played a Bosnian character (for which the small amount bosnian language was dubbed over). He is about as Bosnian as he is Somalian or Japanese.

I'm saying this because someone linked this page to me as "proof" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erenpil (talk • contribs) 05:14, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Nobody is claiming that he is Bosnian, source only claims that he is of Bosnian ancestry. Please learn the difference. And I highly doubt that Dnevni Avaz, Večernji list and Nova TV are gossip media.--Eversman (talk) 23:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

He is not bosnian in anyway. There is no proof for these "bosnian" allegations except a few newspapers and gossip blogs in ex Yugoslavia trying to claim a famous and handsome person for themselves. The rumour started because he once ACTED as a bosnian (thats right,a FICTIONAL character). And even that character was Turkish in every other way. Everything about him is Turkish. His parents are Turkish, and there is no record of them or any of his ancestors coming from Bosnia. This is where wikipedia fails. Anyone can write anything and all kinds of nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.40.231.226 (talk) 10:05, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

so if two bosnian papers published an article claiming that Nelson Mandela is Bosnian, it would be written in his biography ? No, they would laugh about those papers and their silly claims. Until, Kivanc himself or any of his family members has stated this, this is only a RUMOR (based on Kivanc playing a bosnian FICTIONAL CHARACTER) and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.40.231.226 (talk) 17:43, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

PS> Looks like this fake information is being promoted by zionists. I am not surprised because zionists hate Turks and trying to slander Turkey in every opportunity. They murdered our people in Mavi Marmara and we Turks will NEVER forget this terrorist attack on us. They have extended this to wikipedia now and trying to present famous Turks as not Turkish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.40.231.226 (talk) 17:50, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Please provide sources to support your arguments.Turco85 (Talk) 12:03, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

The Bosnian and Croatian sources you insist on adding as reliable references do absolutely NOT back up the claim that Tatlıtug is of Bosnian decent. Those sources only state that on a television interview in Turkey, he made a reference to his Bosnian roots. However, there is not a single Turkish source where he made this so-called statement. i.e. the name of the television channel or the program where/when he appeared. Unless you provide me with one, I and my team will continue to edit out that disputed part in the article. You cannot add gossiping material and present it as a reliable source! Furthermore, as you can see from the new references, this fabricated rumour has been debunked, since Tatlıtug himself has denied these claims.(refer to the references). Stop filling this article with that fabricated nonsense or I will report you! Demir1923 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Demir1923 (talk • contribs) 13:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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Replace picture

Hi, can someone please change/replace his picture. There are lots of better pictures of him than this one. I tried to upload/change it, but was not able to.

Please! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivopw (talk • contribs) 18:42, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Kivanc about his Family Background

For all Turks, who claimed that Kivanc is a Turk, please look this Reportaj about him, and listen his own Words about his Family Background...He said: That his Paternal and Maternal Grandparents was Refugees from Bosna.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHW0JoEgvqE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.98.13 (talk) 17:10, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

He says in the interview that his grandmother was a refugee from (what was then) Yugoslavia. There many Turks over there, for instance Ertan Saban and Filiz Ahmet are from Skopje. Saying that he is "bosniak" is a combination of ignorance of the historically large Turkish communities in the region and outright surmise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.231.86.145 (talk) 14:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Youtube is not a reliable source per WP:NOYT as information is easily edited manipulated, or misrepresented as it has been done here. Sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.231.115.254 (talk) 02:30, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Its really amazing how adamant these zionists are in trying to portray Tatlitug as not Turkish. Actually, its one person with many accounts who signs out to protect his real (ie zionist) identity. Anti Turkish hatred and jealousy from this troublesome clan is mindblowing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.231.93.86 (talk) 06:33, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Bosnian

It is super ridiculous to claim him as Bosnian. When the Balkan states declared their independence many Turks were expelled to Anatolia. Here is a german source of wikipedia itsels: [1] the article talks about "Turkish minorities in Southeast Europe" That many Turks were expelled to Anatolia, however there is still a little minority in Southeast Europe. So does that mean that Ataturk is Greek, because he is born in Greece? Well many Turks have Balkan origins. But the anatolian Turks are themselves a Southeast european population. I have blond hairs, too. I have also speculated that I have may Galatian origins. What I am trying to say is, that many Turks are European, Caucasian and Eurasian People.

at the Tv he says that he have turkish ancestry, but that his father was born by a bosnian mother. plus that his family had been in bakery business in this city for more than hundred years. 95.114.18.33 (talk) 19:35, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

plus at TV he speculated that his mother is from european part of Turkey Edirne and that's maybe the reason why he looks "western". 77.3.103.66 (talk) 04:06, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

some people here feel free to do theorization, but youtube is not a reliable source. and in the video he says that his grandmother came to Turkey as a refugee from Yugoslavia. But Tatlıtuğ's father is born in Turkey and have also turkish relatives and the fathers name is Erdem Tatlıtuğ. 77.3.118.16 (talk) 03:26, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

1) A Private Youtube-uplaoded video is not a valid source, see WP:NOYT 2) Nowhere in that video does he say that is "bosniak". He says his father's mother came from Yugoslavia, which is not unusual given that those areas historically had a large Turkish population and there is still Turks there inspite of all the attempts to destroy them. One third of Turkey's population are Balkan Turks. But somehow the people promoting this claim have falsely extroplated this to mean that he is "bosniak". There's no real proof of them being a 'bosniak'.

If anything, this issue has nothing to do with Tatlitug or his background. The person who is repeatedly adding this claim is a zionist from croatia who hates Turks and does not want Tatlıtuğ to be Turkish. He has an estabished accounts(s) and signs out and edits this article with an ip to hide his real identity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.231.96.234 (talk) 20:01, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Kıvanç himself says he is half bosnian. He says his father's mother is from Sarajevo and his grandfather is Yogoslav. His mother is from Edirne, Turkey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHW0JoEgvqE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.140.238.154 (talk) 11:32, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Family Background

It doesn't quite make sense to me why there is so much debate between people regarding the ethnic background of Kivanç Tatlituğ, if he himself states that he is Turkish then that is what he is. But nonetheless I understand why some are so eager to prove that he is either Bosnian or for somewhere else in the Balkans.

From what I have come to understand ( I am by no means stating that I am correct)Kivanç was born in Adana (in southern Turkey) it may be for this very reason that he considers himself Turkish and tends to overlook for example where his parents of grandparents are originally from. It is very common that people define their ethnic background according to here they were born.

On top of the controversy about the Bosnian side of Kivanç Tatlituğ I must admit that there is the same level of uncertainty in Albania. I understand that some who may read this will find this another joke but having encountered a video interview of Kinvaç on the CNN channel in Turkey on the Isiltilar programme with Tahire Demircan Kivanç does mention that his father or grandfather is originally from Prishtina and also states that they are of Albanian origin.Once again I must note that I am by no means stating this is 100% as I do not understand Turkish very well and only have minimal understanding of the Language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx5fHAfNyXs

Further, in yet another intervie for Turkisk channel Kanal D Kivanç states that he also has Albanian 'roots'. Although in very few cases he appears to consider himself as either Bosnian or Albanian he does note and consider his other ethnic roots.

http://haber.kanald.com.tr/GaleriDetay.aspx?GaleriID=880&Sayfa=23 http://haber.kanald.com.tr/GaleriDetay.aspx?GaleriID=880&Sayfa=23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx5fHAfNyXs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anxhela10 (talk • contribs) 10:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Is Mohanads (Kivanc Tatlitug) privately married to David Lewis Gairao Tatlitug?

Facebook profile: David Lewis Guirao Tatlitug Sorry Kocam but I love this old photo. I know there is no chance of you doing anything like this again but I love seeing it when you are not home. Another week and I get you to myself. It has been too long Kivanc. I miss you so very much. Stay Safe. — in Parma, Italy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.198.90.148 (talk) 09:16, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

In this video he was asked by the Turkish journalist is he has Albanian origin and his answer is. Yes, my father is from Prishtina and my mother is Turkish.

References

Albanian/Bosnian

77.29.72.220 and Qaei - I've noticed a recurring editing dispute on the Albanian/Bosnian matter between you, may I suggest discussing it here before making further edits? Thank you. DrStrauss talk 16:11, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

DrStrauss The issue is being dealt with on 77.29.72.220's talk page. Thanks! Qaei ☎ 16:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2017

Dear Wikipedia, My name is Nathalie Yachouh, I am an administrator for Kivanç Tatlitug North America(KTNA). Our rapidly growing North American fans questioned why Kivanç Tatlitug's WIKIPEDIA account does not provide a list of his accomplishments and awards? Our KTNA team conducted a thorough research to find the dates and awards that Mr. Tatlitug has received till date. The following list is the names and dates of the many awards Kivanç Tatlitug has obtained. If there is any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact our emails listed on the following page provided below. Thank you and have a great day.

Sincerely, Kivanç Tatlitug North America (KTNA) https://linktr.ee/kivancnorthamerica

                        Kivanc Tatlitug’s Awards

            Award 						        Year		 

1. Best Model Of Turkey 2002 2. Best Model Of The World 2002 3. Best Actor Award 2008 4. Elle Styles Award 2010 5. Most Popular Actor Award 2011 6. Altin Kelebek Best Actor Award 2012 7. The Yildiz Teknik University Best Admired Actor 2012 8. The Yildiz Teknik University Best Actor 2012 9. Altin Objektif Awards 2012 10. The Yildiz Teknik University Best Admired Actor 2013 11. The Yildiz Teknik University Best Actor 2013 12. Yeditepe University Best Actor Award 2013 13. Most Successful Actor of Years (Role Kelebegin Ruyasi) 2013 14. SIYAD Best Actor Award 2014 15. MEF Award 2014 16. GQ Turkey Man Of The Year Award 2017 NathalieYa (talk) 05:34, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 06:34, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2017

He is of Bosnian and Turkish descent. 207.154.236.159 (talk) 09:21, 10 September 2017 (UTC) Someone must help this page. information "He is of Bosnian and Turkish descent" in sources of 15-20 languages. Someone wrote fake information. He isnt Albanian. Wikipedia, Look up this page.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — IVORK _Discuss 12:08, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2018

During an interview he has stated that his paternal grandfather is Albanian from the city of Pristina and his patetnal grandmother is Bosnian from Sarajevo. 213.183.51.71 (talk) 07:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. IMDB is not generally considered a reliable source since the information is often user-contributed. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:16, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2018

"please change During an interview he has stated that his father is Albanian from the city of Pristina. to During an interview he has stated that his paternal grandfather is Albanian from Pristina and his paternal grandmother is Bosnian from Sarajevo." 213.183.41.57 (talk) 12:03, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

References

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia does not consider imdb a reliable source. The other page you link doesn't appear to support your proposed revision, if I'm reading it (the page in translation) correctly. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 16:53, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2018

"change During an interview he has stated that his father is Albanian from the city of Pristina. to His mother is from Edirne, Turkey. His paternal grandfather is Albanian from Pristina. His paternal grandmother is Bosnian from Sarajevo." 213.183.63.210 (talk) 17:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

References

 Not done: The reference provided appears to be an editorial written by Ertuğrul Özkök. WP:NEWSORG states that editorial commentary, analysis and opinion pieces, whether written by the editors of the publication (editorials) or outside authors (op-eds) are reliable primary sources for statements attributed to that editor or author, but are rarely reliable for statements of fact.  spintendo  17:56, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

He talks in interview Source

"change During an interview he has stated that his father is Albanian from the city of Pristina. to His mother is from Edirne, Turkey. His paternal grandfather is Albanian from Pristina. His paternal grandmother is Bosnian from Sarajevo." 213.183.63.197 (talk) 09:23, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

References

 Not done: Please cite the video using the AV Media reference citation template rather than citing it as a link to YouTube, taking care to include the time index at which the mention of these claims are made.  spintendo  16:07, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018

"change During an interview he has stated that his father is Albanian from the city of Pristina. to His mother is from Edirne, Turkey. His father is a Turkish citizen. His paternal family is Yugoslavia immigrant. His paternal grandfather is Albanian from Pristina. His paternal grandmother is Bosnian from Sarajevo." 213.183.63.190 (talk) 05:05, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

References

Pinging users CeeGee, Nub Cake, GGT, and Cekli829 as experienced editors who identify as Babel:tr-N. We seem to be running into a language barrier when responding to the repeated edit requests on this page. I'm not really comfortable responding either way on this without being able to understand the sources (and from the previous responses I don't think I'm the only one). I'm hoping someone can assist? ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 03:09, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: Your attempt at finding a linguistic common ground here with the requester is admirable, but at the end of the day the request is asking us to list the genealogical heritages of several of the subject's extended family members, which is not the purpose of the article, per WP:NOTGENEALOGY.  spintendo  23:17, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

The Kivanc photo is old

Ita necessário to change história Photo. Please. Sandra Wolga (talk) 01:35, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Picture change on Kivanc Tatlitug wiki

Hi, I'd like to request a picture change on the Kivanc Tatlitug Wiki page, please. DarkPhoenix50 (talk) 14:01, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2021

Please change the photo of Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ and upload latest one 182.186.250.128 (talk) 21:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Please upload the photo you want used to commons, using WP:UPLOAD. Any photo will need to be licensed in a way that allows reuse for any purpose. After you have uploaded the new photo, someone can help add it to the article. RudolfRed (talk) 00:47, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Fake wife happy life

Fake wife happy life. Authentic selves do not exist in Turkish culture for aging unmarried men, especially Stars. 73.28.136.72 (talk) 03:15, 13 January 2023 (UTC)