Talk:Jutsu (Naruto)/Archive 1

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General convo

We should ditch the wapuro stuff for circumflexed vowels signifying double vowels. WhisperToMe 05:48, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

First of all. This page is incorrectly named. It should be Naruto jutsu, not Naruto jutsus. Second, this page should be a part of the existing Naruto page. Third, there are various romanization problems here. Oh, Whisper to me. What a surprise... Exploding Boy 06:26, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)

How about "List of Naruto jutsu"? The "List of ..." article name is becoming commonplace on Wikipedia, and it seems to make sense; this is list, after all. --Iamunknown 07:05, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I changed the name of the article to Naruto jutsu --JadziaLover 08:29, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The size of this page is in excess of 32k--would it be reasonable to create subpages for Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Other, and move the bulk of the information there? ('other' could include combinations of the regular three categories, such as harem no jutsu, as well as jutsu that do not easily fit into the initial three categories, such as 'Cancel'--arguably not itself a genjutsu, though it relates to them.) Chimerasame 07:12, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

Two things:

The Chidori is listed twice, once as a taijutsu and once as ninjutsu (although it's listed as it's other name, the one that start's with an R). Should it be deleted or listed under the same thing to help clarify things?

Second, the Sharingan can also be used to copy jutsus, edited the entry accordingly..vb5678

In the first databook Chidori and Raikiri are treated as two different jutsu. Chidori (done by Uchiha Sasuke) is an A-rank jutsu, while Raikiri (done by Hatake Kakashi) is S-rank. Therefore I think we should keep them seperate. They are by the way both ninjutsu.--JadziaLover 15:36, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

i'm changing all references to "jutsus" to "jutsu", except for the actual name of the page, of course, which is probably a pain and definitely beyond my ability. maybe it can just point/forward to a new page Naruto_jutsu ? i think this page is big enough to be apart from the main naruto page but i don't think it warrants separate taijutsu/ninjutsu/genjutsu pages... --gb 02:39, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Organization

I think that it would be nice if jutsus were grouped with similar ones. Not in such broad groups as "Genjutsu," "Taijutsu" and "Ninjutsu" demand, but rather "Eye (I forgot the Romaji -- is it 'Douton'?) Techniques," "Summoning (Kuchiyose) Techniques," etc.

Problems:

• The broad categories are used in the manga and are well-known.
• Some alike jutsu (e.g. "Eye Techniques") are categorized into different broad categories. See: Byakugan, Mangekyō Sharingan and Sharingan.

Benefits:

• More organization.
• With sections, we could have an article for each type of technique, and shorten the descriptions and/or eliminate some of the less well-known jutsus in this main article, but keep them in their group articles.

Solutions?:

• Wikipedia categories. Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Taijatsu splitting up into Kuchiyose, Eye, etc.
• Template. I've been toying with the idea of a Naruto template for a while. The problem is that there is so much to be written, unless we only include main characters, jutsus, bloodline limits, etc, such as: Uzumaki Naruto, Haruno Sakura, Uchiha Sasuke, Hatake Kakashi, and then Sharingan, the sealing jutsu used by Yondaime and then Sandaime, etc.

I like this idea because:

1. I think that a main article branching out to individual articles is a good idea. Then readers come to the hub (main article), find another article they would like to look more into, and cross-reference to it. Imagine the pain one must go through with this gigantic article to find their needle in a haystack!

--Iamunknown 07:23, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Topics such as puppet jutsu (currently a pathetic little blurb on this article) are getting broader by the week. --Lionelster 09:21, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Can we go ahead with splitting this article? Article size is slowing down page loading and editing. We should discuss how we're going to organize the splitage: 1) alphabetically, as it is now. 2) categorically.

I think #2 would be more intuitive. Jutsu can easily be put together as such: doton, katon, suiton, puppeteering (including descriptions of puppets), summoning (animals/hokages/weapons/etc), medical (including attacks), all of Kimimaro's goddamn bone dances, etc. Obviously some catagories will include nin- and genjutsu for example, so the jutsu can simply be indicated as such -- meanwhile the general descriptions of tai-, gen- and ninjutsu go to the top of the (main) Naruto Jutsu page. Discuss as well, if necessary, if clone jutsu (plain/water/shadow/bugs/etc) can be put together, for instance.

--Lionelster 06:26, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

The second option would be best. There are already some existing jutsu categories often used, e.g. Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Genjutsu, Bunshin ninjutsu, Iryō ninjutsu (Medical ninjutsu), Kuchiyose ninjutsu, Juin jutsu (Cursed seal jutsu), Fūin jutsu (Sealing techniques), Hiden jutsu (Secret clan techniques, e.g. Nara, Akimichi, Aburame...), Kekkei genkai, Henge ninjutsu...

We could further categorize the jutsu if needed. For instance, we could put Gaara's jutsu in a seperate category. The same with Gai's and Lee's taijutsu (Konoha Senpū, Konoha Reppū, etc), Basic ninjutsu (e.g. Nawanuke and Kakuremino), Elemental jutsu (Katon, Suiton, etc.)--JadziaLover 09:14, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

You know what, splitting everything that far might be over the top. I foresee folks calling for all those disparate jutsu pages to be merged. Article size probably isn't a big issue anyway. However, the idea sounds great for organization within this page, naturally. It would look sorta like this:

• general description
  • taijutsu
  • genjutsu
  • ninjutsu
  • ranking

(intuitive categorization begins...)

• basics
  • kawarimi
  • buunshin
• seals
• summoning
  • items/puppets/weapons (scroll)
  • kuchiyose
    • animal
    • dead folks
• elemental
  • katon
  • suiton
• medical
• puppeteering
• "gaijutsu" ;)
• etc...

A LOT of work, yes. First things first: a consensus? Is this something we can all agree on? And then of course: who's gonna do it? How would a collaboration work? This would be a major overhaul project here. Discuss.

--Lionelster 03:52, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

This sounds good. However, it would, of course, be important to properly classify the jutsu. For one, those weapon 'summons', like Tenten and Naruto do, are probably nothing more then simple sealed weapons (no blood is needed). And what exactly are the elemental jutsu? Are only those with Xton in front of their names elemental jutsu, or jutsu like Amaterasu and Kibaku Nendo also considered elemental jutsu--JadziaLover 12:24, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

"Elemental": those were your words, btw. The key here is intuitive, or obvious. Perhaps something like Amaterasu ought exclusively to be in a kekkei genkai category? Otherwise it's rather obvious it's a katon jutsu, so that's okay. And I don't think an umbrella "elemental" category is necessary; every Xton can be one each. Anyhow, you've exposed a con for this move, which is important to note: ambiguity.

We can use "see also" links where there are secondary similarities among jutsu. E.g. the basic bunshin jutsu points to kagebunshin, bug bunshin, etc. elsewhere on the page.

Btw, isn't bunshin no jutsu a genjutsu, instead of a ninjutsu? --Lionelster 01:59, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

"See also" links sound good, but wouldn't that make the page very big, and/or confusing?

Bunshin no Jutsu is a regular ninjutsu technique. It uses the user's chakra to creates an image of the user. A Genjutsu uses the opponent's chakra against him.--JadziaLover 12:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

My attempt at categorization follows. Yeah, it's long. Note the significant portion of the techniques which don't have even a vaguely defined category. Also, some techniques fit into one or more of my categories, and it's still a very rough categorization. The groups for the most part also supersede type (tai/ninjutsu), so that perhaps needs to go in the info header for each technique. --Pentasyllabic 05:11, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

bloodlines, clan/person-specific or otherwise distinctive ("Gaijutsu")

6.1 Byakugan (Evil Eye)
3.14 Juken (Gentle Fist)
3.9 Hakke Kusho (Eight Trigrams Empty Palm)
3.10 Hakke Rokujuyon Sho (Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms)
3.11 Hakke Hyaku Nijuhachi Sho (Eight Trigrams One Hundred Twenty-Eight Palms)
3.12 Hakkesho Kaiten (Eight Trigram Palms Heavenly Spin)
3.28 Shugohakke Rokujuyon Sho (Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms)
5.9 Juin Jutsu (Hyuga Ichizoku Souke) (Cursed Seal Technique (Hyuga family Main House))

6.2 Makyo Hyosho (Demonic Mirror Ice Crystals)
4.114 Sensatsu Suisho (Thousand Flying Water Needles of Death) (bloodline, or just a water jutsu?)

6.3 Mangekyō Sharingan (Kaleidoscope Copy Wheel Eye)
2.10 Tsukuyomi (Moon Reader)
4.3 Amaterasu (Shining Heaven)

6.4 Sharingan (Copy Wheel Eye)
3.27 Shishi Rendan (Lion Combo) (questionable?)
4.9 Chidori (One Thousand Birds)
4.99 Raikiri (Lightning Blade)
4.128 Sofushasan no Tachi (Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades)
2.6 Magen: Kyoten chiten (Demonic illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth change)

6.5 Shikotsumyaku (Dead Bone Pulse)
3.32 Teshi Sendan (Finger Bullet Drill)
3.33 Tessenka no Mai: Hana (Dance of the Clematis: Flower)
3.34 Tessenka no Mai: Tsuru (Dance of the Clematis: Vine)
3.35 Tsubaki no Mai (Dance of the Camellia)
3.16 Karamatsu no Mai (Dance of the Larch)
3.38 Yanagi no Mai (Dance of the Willow)
4.112 Sawarabi no Mai (Dance of the Seedling Fern)

3.1 Asakujaku (Morning Peacock)
3.4 Dainamikku-Entori (Dynamic Entry)
3.37 Ura Renge (Reverse Lotus)
3.15 Kage Buyo (Shadow of the Dancing Leaf)
3.17 Konoha Daisenpu (Leaf Great Whirlwind)
3.18 Konoha Gorikki Senpu (Leaf Strong Whirlwind)
3.19 Konoha Reppu (Leaf Gale)
3.20 Konoha Senpu (Konoha Hurricane)
3.21 Konoha Shofu (Leaf Rising Wind)
3.24 Omote Renge (Front Lotus)
3.29 Suiken (Drunken Fist)

4.4 Baika no Jutsu (The Art of Expansion)
4.5 Bubun Baika no Jutsu (Partial Multi Size Technique)
4.11 Chobaika no Jutsu (Butterfly Multi Size Technique)
3.3 Chodan Bakugeki(Bullet Butterfly Bombing)
3.22 Nikudan Hari Sensha (Spiked Human Bullet Tank)
3.23 Nikudan Sensha (Human Juggernaut)

3.5 Dainamikku Makingu (Dynamic Marking)
3.7 Garoga (Double Wolf Fang)
3.8 Gatsuga (Double Piercing Fang)
4.118 Shikyaku no Jutsu (Four Legs Technique)
4.42 Jinju Konbi Henge: Sotoro (Man Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf)
4.44 Jujin Bunshin (Beast Human Clone)

4.46 Kage Kubi Shibari no Jutsu (Shadow Neck Bind Technique)
4.48 Kagemane no Jutsu (The Art of Me-and-My-Shadow)

4.109 Satetsu (Iron Sand)
4.110 Satetsu Kaiho (Iron Sand World Order)
4.111 Satetsu Shigure (Iron Sand Drizzle)

4.61 Kibaku Nendo (Exploding Clay)

5.11 Shiki Fuin (Corpse Demon Seal)
4.34 Hiraishin no Jutsu (Flying Thunder God Technique)
4.97 Odama Rasengan (Great Ball Spiraling Sphere)
4.101 Rasengan (Spiraling Sphere)
5.7 Hakke no Fuin Shiki (Eight Trigrams Sealing Style)
5.13 Shisho Fuin (Four Symbols Seal)

5.10 Juin Jutsu (Orochimaru) (Cursed Seal Technique (Orochimaru))
4.113 Seneijashu (Hidden Shadow Snake Hand)
4.129 Sojasosai no Jutsu (Twin Snakes Kill Each Other)
4.69 Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei (Summoning: Impure World Resurrection)
4.93 Nan no Kaizo (Soft Physique Modification)
4.127 Shushagan no Jutsu (Vanishing Facial Copy Technique)
4.84 Kusanagi no Tsurugi: Ku no Tachi (Kusanagi Sword: Long Sword of the Heavens)
4.25 Fushi Tensei (Living Corpse Reincarnation)
4.26 Futon: Daitoppa (Wind Release: Great Breakthrough)

4.143 Suna Bunshin (Sand Doppelganger)
4.144 Suna no Tate (Shield of Sand)
4.145 Suna no Yoroi (Armour of Sand)
4.146 Suna Shigure (Sand Drizzle)
4.147 Suna Shuriken (Sand Shuriken)
4.13 Daisan no Me (Third Eye)
4.102 Ryusa Bakuryu (Quicksand in the Style of a Waterfall)
4.103 Sabaku Fuyu (Desert Suspension)
4.104 Sabaku Kyu (The Coffin of Crushing Sand)
4.105 Sabaku Soso (Imploding Sand Funeral)
4.106 Sabaku Taiso (Desert Imperial Funeral)
4.107 Sabakuro (Desert Prison)
4.108 Saiko Zettai Hogyo: Shukaku no Tate (Extreme Hard Ultimate Defense: Shield of Shukaku)
4.29 Gokusamaiso (Prison Sand Burial)

5 Fuin Jutsu (Sealing Techniques) 
5.1 Fuin Jutsu: Genryu Kyu Fujin (Sealing Technique: Illusionary Dragon Nine Consuming Seals)
5.2 Fuja Hoin (Evil Sealing Method)
5.3 Fuka Hoin (Fire Sealing Method)
5.4 Fukoku Hoin (Black Sealing Method)
5.5 Gogyo Fuin (Five Elements Seal)
5.6 Gogyo Kaiin (Five Elements Unseal)
5.7 Hakke no Fuin Shiki (Eight Trigrams Sealing Style)
5.11 Shiki Fuin (Corpse Demon Seal)
5.12 Shikokumujin (Four Black Fog Battle Formation)
5.13 Shisho Fuin (Four Symbols Seal)

Academy Basics
4.58 Kawarimi no Jutsu (Change of Body Technique)
4.94 Nawanuke no Jutsu (Rope Escape Technique)
4.7 Bunshin no Jutsu (Clone Jutsu)
4.32 Henge no Jutsu (Transformation Technique)
4.49 Kakuremino no Jutsu (Cloak of Invisibility Technique)

4.52 Katon: Gamayu Endan (Fire Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet)
4.53 Katon: Gokakyu no Jutsu (Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique)
4.54 Katon: Hosenka no Jutsu (Fire Style - Art of the Phoenix Flower, the Touch-me-not)
4.55 Katon: Karyu Endan (Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet)
4.56 Katon: Ryuka no Jutsu (Fire Release: Dragon Fire Technique)

4.134 Suiro no Jutsu (Water Prison Technique)
4.135 Suiton: Bakusui Shoha (Water Release: Exploding Water Shockwave)
4.136 Suiton: Daibakufu no Jutsu (Water Release: Great Waterfall Technique)
4.137 Suiton: Goshokuzame (Water Release: Five Eating Sharks)
4.138 Suiton: Suigadan (Water Release: Water Fang Bullet)
4.139 Suiton: Suijinheki (Water Release: Water Encampment Wall)
4.140 Suiton: Suikodan no Jutsu (Water Release: Water Shark Bullet Technique)
4.141 Suiton: Suiryudan no Jutsu (Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique)
4.142 Suiton: Teppodama (Water Release: Gunshot)
4.90 Mizu Bunshin no Jutsu (Water Doppelganger)
4.63 Kiri Gakure no Jutsu (Hiding Mist Technique) (questionable?)

4.16 Doton Kekkai: Dorodomu (Earth Release Barrier: Dungeon Chamber of Nothingness)
4.17 Doton: Dochu Eigyo no Jutsu (Earth Release: Underground Projection Fish)
4.18 Doton: Doroku Gaeshi (Earth Release: Earth Shore Return)
4.19 Doton: Doryu Dango (Earth Release: Earth Mausoleum Dumpling)
4.20 Doton: Doryuheki (Earth Release: Earth Release Wall)
4.21 Doton: Iwayado Kuzushi (Earth Release: Rock Lodging Destruction)
4.22 Doton: Retsudotensho (Earth Release: Split Earth Turn Around Palm)
4.23 Doton: Shinju Zanshu no Jutsu (Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique)
4.24 Doton: Yomi Numa (Earth Release: Swamp of the Underworld)
4.68 Kuchiyose: Doton: Tsuiga no Jutsu (Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique)

4.35 Hyoro no Jutsu (Ice Prison Technique)
4.36 Hyoton: Haryu Moko (Ice Release: Piercing Dragon Fierce Tiger)
4.37 Hyoton: Kokuryubo Fusetsu (Ice Release: Black Dragon Outburst Snowstorm)
4.38 Hyoton: Ikkaku Hakugei (Ice Release: One-Horned White Whale)
4.39 Hyoton: Roga Nadare no Jutsu (Ice Release: Wolf Fang Avalanche)
4.40 Hyoton: Tsubame Fubuki (Ice Release: Swallow Snow Storm)

4.26 Futon: Daitoppa (Wind Release: Great Breakthrough)
4.27 Futon: Mugen Sajin Daitoppa (Wind Release: Infinite Sand Cloud Great Breakthrough)
4.28 Futon: Renkudan (Wind Release: Drilling Air Bullet)
4.50 Kamaitachi no Jutsu (Cutting Whirlwind Technique)
4.12 Daikamaitachi no Jutsu (Great Cutting Whirlwind Technique)
4.59 Kaze no Yaiba (Blade of Wind)

4.91 Mokuton Hijutsu: Jukai Kotan (Wood Release Secret Technique: Birth of Dense Woodland)

4.153 Zankuha (Decapitating Air Wave)
4.154 Zankukyokuha (Extreme Decapitating Air Waves)
4.85 Kyomeisen (Vibrating Sound Drill)

Bunshin and related
3.2 Bunshin Taiatari (Clone Body Blow)
4.6 Bunshin Daibakuha (Clone Great Explosion)
4.7 Bunshin no Jutsu (Clone Jutsu)
4.30 Haremu no Jutsu (Harem Jutsu)
4.148 Taju Kage Bunshin no Jutsu (Multiple Shadow Clone Technique)
4.151 Uzumaki Naruto Nisen Rendan (Uzumaki Naruto Two Thousand Combo)
4.152 Uzumaki Naruto Rendan (Uzumaki Naruto Combo)
4.126 Shuriken Kage Bunshin no Jutsu (Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique)
4.115 Shihohappo Shuriken (Shuriken from All Directions)
4.92 Mushi Bunshin no Jutsu (Bug Clone Technique)
4.143 Suna Bunshin (Sand Doppelganger)
4.44 Jujin Bunshin (Beast Human Clone)
4.45 Kage Bunshin no Jutsu (Shadow Clone Jutsu)
4.90 Mizu Bunshin no Jutsu (Water Doppelganger)
4.89 Mikazuki no Mai (Dance of the Crescent Moon)
4.96 Oboro Bunshin no Jutsu (Haze Clone Technique)

Henge and related
4.30 Haremu no Jutsu (Harem Jutsu)
4.32 Henge no Jutsu (Transformation Technique)
4.33 Henge: Kongonyoi (Transformation: Adamantine Staff)
4.65 Konbi Henge (Combination Transformation)
4.42 Jinju Konbi Henge: Sotoro (Man Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf)
4.98 Oiroke no Jutsu (Ninja Centerfold)

Kuchiyose
4.67 Kuchiyose no Jutsu (Summoning Technique)
4.68 Kuchiyose: Doton: Tsuiga no Jutsu (Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique)
4.69 Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei (Summoning: Impure World Resurrection)
4.70 Kuchiyose: Gamaguchi Shibari (Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind)
4.71 Kuchiyose: Kirikiri Mai (Summoning: Quick Beheading Dance)
4.72 Kuchiyose: Rashomon (Summoning: Rashomon)
4.73 Kuchiyose: Yatai Kuzushi no Jutsu (Summoning: Food Cart Destroyer Technique)
4.131 Soshoryu (Twin Rising Dragons) (questionable?)

3.6 Gama Dosuzan (Toad Sword Beheading)
4.52 Katon: Gamayu Endan (Fire Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet)
4.155 Zesshi Nensan (Tongue Tooth Sticky Acid)
4.57 Katsuyu Daibunretsu (Slug Great Division)
4.66 Kongo Roheki (Adamantine Prison Wall)

Medical, biological, etc.
4.10 Chikatsu Saisei no Jutsu (Healing Resuscitation Regeneration Technique)
4.15 Dokumeki no Jutsu (Poison Extraction Technique)
4.14 Dokugiri (Poison Mist)
4.41 Inyu Shometsu (Secret Healing Wound Destruction)
4.100 Ranshinsho (Important Body Points Disturbance)
4.25 Fushi Tensei (Living Corpse Reincarnation)
4.117 Shikon no Jutsu (Dead Soul Technique)
4.123 Shosen Jutsu (Mystical Palm Technique)
4.127 Shushagan no Jutsu (Vanishing Facial Copy Technique)
5.8 Infuin: Kai (Shadow Seal: Release)
4.133 Sozo Saisei (Creation Rebirth)
4.93 Nan no Kaizo (Soft Physique Modification)
4.124 Shoten no Jutsu (Shapeshifting Technique)
4.62 Kikaichu no Jutsu (Destruction Bug Host Technique)
4.69 Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei (Summoning: Impure World Resurrection)
4.8 Chakura Kyuin Jutsu (Chakra Absorption Technique) (questionable?)
4.31 Hari Jizo (Spiked Jizo) (questionable?)
4.70 Kuchiyose: Gamaguchi Shibari (Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind) (questionable?)

Mind-affecting (includes Genjutsu)

genjutsu
2.1 Kasumi jusha no jutsu (Mist servant technique)
2.2 Kokuangyo no jutsu (Bringer-of-darkness technique)
2.3 Kori shinchu no jutsu (Sly mind affect technique)
2.4 Magen: Jubaku satsu (Demonic illusion: Tree bind death)
2.5 Magen: Kokoni arazu no jutsu (Demonic illusion: False surroundings technique)
2.6 Magen: Kyoten chiten (Demonic illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth change)
2.7 Magen: Narakumi no Jutsu (Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique)
2.8 Mateki: Mugenonsa (Demonic Flute: Dream Sound Chain)
2.9 Nehan Shoja no Jutsu (Temple of Nirvana Technique)

non-genjutsu
4.119 Shinranshin no Jutsu (Mind Body Disturbance Technique)
4.120 Shintenshin no Jutsu (Art of the Valentine)
4.51 Kanashibari no Jutsu (Temporary Paralysis Technique)
4.149 Tanuki Neiri no Jutsu (Feigning Sleep Technique)

Sound Four stuff (they just have too many techniques, thanks to a certain spider, to not have a category for.)

4.60 Kekkai Hojin (Barrier Encampment Method)
4.122 Shishienjin (Four Violet Flames Battle Encampment)
5.10 Juin Jutsu (Orochimaru) (Cursed Seal Technique (Orochimaru))
5.12 Shikokumujin (Four Black Fog Battle Formation)

4.75 Kumo Mayu (Spider Cocoon)
4.76 Kumo Nenkin (Spider Sticky Gold)
4.77 Kumo Nento (Spider Sticking Spit)
4.78 Kumo Shibari (Spider Bind)
4.79 Kumo Senkyu: Susaku (Spider War Bow: Terrible Split)
4.80 Kumo Soiki (Spider Web Area)
4.81 Kumo Soka (Spider Web Flower)
4.82 Kumo Sokai (Spider Web Unfold)
4.2 Amagumo (Rain of Spiders)
4.95 Nenkin no Yoroi (Armour of Sticky Gold)

4.86 Makyo no Ran (War of Evil Men)
4.87 Mateki: Genbuso Kyoku (Demon Flute: Illusionary Warriors Manipulating Melody)
2.8 Mateki: Mugenonsa (Demonic Flute: Dream Sound Chain)

3.30 Tarenken (Multiple Connecting Punches)
3.31 Tarenkyaku (Multiple Connecting Kicks)
4.64 Kisei Kikai no Jutsu (Parasite Demon Demolition Technique)
4.130 Soma no Ko (Double Demon Attack)
4.72 Kuchiyose: Rashomon (Summoning: Rashomon)

3.25 Rakanken (Achiever of Nirvana Fist)
4.16 Doton Kekkai: Dorodomu (Earth Release Barrier: Dungeon Chamber of Nothingness)
4.19 Doton: Doryu Dango (Earth Release: Earth Mausoleum Dumpling)
4.18 Doton: Doroku Gaeshi (Earth Release: Earth Shore Return)

Puppeteering
4.74 Kugutsu no Jutsu (Puppet Technique)
4.83 Kurohigi Kiki Ippatsu (Black Secret Technique Machine One Shot)
4.121 Shiro Higi: Jikki Chikamatsu no Shu (White Secret Technique: Ten Puppet Group of Chikamatsu)
4.1 Aka Higi: Hyakki no Soen (Red Secret Technique: Performance of a Hundred Puppets)

uncategorized Taijutsu
3.13 Hien (Flying Swallow)
3.26 Sennen Goroshi (One Thousand Years of Death)
3.36 Tsutenkyaku (Painful Sky Leg)

uncategorized Ninjutsu
4.43 Joro Senbon (It's Raining Needles From Heaven)
4.47 Kage Shuriken no Jutsu (Shadow Shuriken Technique)
4.88 Meisai Gakure no Jutsu (Hiding Camouflage Technique)
4.116 Shikomishindan (Prepared Needle Shot)
4.125 Shunshin no Jutsu (Body Flicker Technique)
4.132 Soshuha (Manipulating Attack Blades)
4.150 Tomegane no Jutsu (Telescope Technique)

This looks very good, but I have a couple of comments ^^
Wouldn't Hiraishin belong to person-specific jutsu?
I don't think Gamaguchi belongs in the Medical/biological category
I don't think Shishi rendan should be under Sharingan
Is Sensatsu Suisho specific to Haku's bloodline?
Juin jutsu are not Fuuin jutsu
I don't really consider Gaara's sand jutsu to be elemental
Which brings me, once again, to the important question, what is an elemental jutsu?--JadziaLover 12:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I thought Sensatsu Suisho was using Haku's bloodline to control the water; it doesn't help that most Suiton techniques do about the same thing, only with chakra instead of bloodlines. Juin jutsu are listed under Fuin on the main page. I suppose that Hiraishin could be categorized with the Rasengans. As for "elemental jutsu", I don't have a clear answer... Temari's attacks are wind-based but don't have a Futon: in front, are they considered elemental wind attacks?

Another possible category is forbidden jutsu, there's a few of those. --Pentasyllabic 17:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Sweet. Just the way I'd picture it: clan/individual/bloodline-specific whenever possible. I see duplicate entries though. Must rectify that. Like I said, we can drop the "elemental" category. Sand and wind are categories on their own, and yes, Temari's attacks are futon. It's just obvious. Forbidden jutsu and other general terms like doujutsu should go in "general description" along with gen/nin/taijutsu, and jutsu that are such are labeled as such. --Lionelster 07:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't see how Temari's attacks are Futon since she uses her fan to control, more of less, the wind. Anyways, I think that Sakura Fubuki no Jutsu should not be listed in Ninjutsu, it is more of a Taijutsu since it really doesn't use chakra, if a jutsu at all, EDIT: I think we might just put a little tag next to each jutsu like if it is a medical jutsu put [MEDICAL] next to it and on the list so that someone can easily scim the list and be like "OH! MEDICAL! I WANT!" yes, no? --Anyr 19:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Names of sections

I'm getting really tired of all this constant renaming. There are many page on wikipedia that refer back to this page, but half the time the links are broken because the technique headings CONSTANTLY change. Let's get a concensus, please. How are we naming the techniques? Is it Japanese name first (English name) or English name (japanese name)? I personally prefer Japanese Name (English Name) mainly because this is an ANIME done in JAPAN, and we should do our best to preserve this. Yes, I know the English names are "official" viz translations, but when we translate Kage Bunshin no Jutsu to Art of the Doppelganger, we have to look at ourselves and say "WTF, mate?".

THEREFORE, let it be known that from this day forth, we need a concensus. That is all. I like rabbits.

P.S.: I'm also going to stick the cleanup tag up on this article now.

Hobbeslover 16:33, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Hobbeslover I completely agree with you, Japanese Name (English Name) should indeed be used in my opinion. Most people use the Japanese names and, if I'm not mistaken, even Viz is using them together with the English names they came up with. That and you are right, it is a Japanese Manga/Anime we should use the original and not some translation, no matter how 'official' this translation is. --JadziaLover 19:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

"Japanese Name (English Name) mainly because this is an ANIME done in JAPAN,"

And because of this Pokemon should use all of the Japanese names despite the fact that it would throw off everyone who is not familiar with them. Besides, your reasons for hating the American translation are flimsy. Look up the definition of a Doppelganger sometime. And the reason things are "changing" so much is partly due to anonymous users editing. Also, some attacks don't have English names yet. Now, Viz has started to use the Japanese attack names and Japanese item named together with English. However, "clones" are still regularly rendered as doppelgangers. Besides, the anime is coming out in September, so we should wait to see what the anime does. WhisperToMe 21:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Hobbeslover and JadziaLover. We should prefer the original Japanese names over the English names. WhisperToMe, this encyclopædia isn't only used in the US. I come from the Netherlands and I always use the English Wikipedia. The anime is being released in the US, not in the rest of the world. I believe the majority of the Naruto fans prefer the Japanese names, so please think about that. Also, don't compare Naruto with Pokemon. Naruto has gathered a huge fanbase all over the world while it hasn't even been released in most of those countries. Pokemon only got popular after it had been released in English, that is why everyone knows the English names better then the Japanese names. --Love Gaara 23:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

I hate how its so anti-US centric sometimes. Yea, it's not US-only, but it's not Japan-only either. See, the USA and Canada (yes, these books are sold in Canada as well) are the only countries in the world with English-language Naruto books, so we use their translations, et al.

" I come from the Netherlands and I always use the English Wikipedia. The anime is being released in the US, not in the rest of the world. I believe the majority of the Naruto fans prefer the Japanese names, so please think about that. "

And the majority of people in the Netherlands speak Dutch. And the Dutch don't have their own Naruto release so they are free to use the Japanese names. See, on the English Wikipedia, we have a tendency to cater to the cultures of the US, Canada, India, Australia, the UK, and New Zealand, and we always will. We use English-language release names of numerous anime series for this reason. Also, English-language manga series in Europe are usually imported from the United States.

Think about the casual masses who know nothing about Naruto. This is not solely a Narutoencyclopedia.

WhisperToMe 23:30, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Most people prefer the Japanese names and this goes for people from the US, Canada, India, Australia, the UK, and New Zealand too. Even Viz is starting to use them! I don't see any reason not to use the Japanese names. About the 'casual masses', if they don't know anything about Naruto, the Japanese names are as much use to them as the English.--JadziaLover 23:58, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Now, I'm actually okay with "Japanese (English)" format for headers, so go ahead and change that aspect if you wish. WhisperToMe 00:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Alright then "Japanese (English)" it will be. P.S. what made you change your mind WhisperToMe? --Love Gaara 00:25, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Because the English is still in there. WhisperToMe 00:35, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Lol, for some reason, I expected Jadzia and Whsiper to respond to this. BTW, Whisper, I know what doppelganger means, but it just sounds so GAY. They could have avoided the awkwardness sounding of it all and went with Shadow Clones or something, but that's not what the debate is about. So we've reached a concensus, yay.

Hobbeslover 03:37, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Is the sexy jutu in this artical? Even though I'm not signed in this is still a little moronic-seeming to ask... --70.104.128.131 11:49, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it is. --Pentasyllabic 19:08, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

I know some spoken Japanese which is why I prefer Japanese names anyway. English names will always be translations and translations are only perfect maybe 10% of the time. -Iopq 02:32, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

formatting, &c.

I started some downcasing in section headings to conform to Wikipedia:Manual of Style; clearly more is needed. Also, what's with the section levels? "Basic information" is TOO BIG! Michael Hardy 21:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

New jutsu

What on Earth is Mushi Kabe no Jutsu? I've never heard of it. Has it only appeared in the anime?--JadziaLover 09:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Yup, I believe it appeared in several episodes back, in one of those 'filler episodes' --An 00:55, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Wow, this page ...

I almost cannot believe the length of this page. Naruto is getting ridiculous. --Cyde Weys _talk^contribs 01:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Characters of Naruto is longer :P #27 on the longest pages list, while this page is #58. Nobody really has any good ideas for how to split either of these articles though... --Pentasyllabic 02:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Wow, that list of characters is just ... wow. I have a newfound hatred for long-running anime series that just don't know when to call it quits. Or at least anime series that unnecessarily inject dozens of throw-away characters (and each of which is slightly longer than the last so that they always pose a challenge to the hero). --Cyde Weys _talk;^contribs 02:44, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

The problem is that the character list shows even characters that appeared and died in the same chapter. As for this list, put yourself in a common user place. You may have heard about Naruto, and come here to learn what Naruto is. But you won't come to know what Jikki Chikamatsu no Shu or White Secret Technique: Ten Puppet Group of Chikamatsu is. Heck, you probably won't know how to spell it. This information is very technical, and does not fit the encyclopedia. It fits a Wikibook better. Thus, I think this article should be moved to a Wikibook. -- ReyBrujo 02:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey, you never know. White Secret Technique: Ten Puppet Group of Chikamatsu sounds so awesome, I think I'm going to do it tomorrow on the way to work. --Cyde Weys _talk^contribs 03:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

redirect?

I'm going to redirect Naruto Jutsu's to this page, unless anyone has any objections. --Pentasyllabic 00:35, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Please do, and do it quickly. I hate it when people think Henge and Bunshin are Genjutsu ^^--JadziaLover 01:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. --Pentasyllabic 18:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Images of the attacks?

Nevermind, I found the link of the techniques images: http://www.naruto-kun.com/naruto+jutsus.html

--Datavi X 10:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I believe we should have like links from the name of the jutsu to a mini-clip of the attack to further explain this, I know www.naruto-kun.com has quite a few clips of the jutsu. Who thinks this would be a cool/good idea? --Anyr 19:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Yay! We have some images for the attacks! So, we better get uploadin more! =P --Datavi X 18:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

What the...

When I clicked on the link to view the Ninjutsu, it just redirects me to the main Naruto article...

Could this be solved? =\

--Datavi X 17:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Nine cursed seals?

"There are a total of nine cursed seals. Earth, heaven, etc."
So what are the other seven? --Pentasyllabic 22:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I never heard of there being nine Juin... --JadziaLover 16:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think they have been shown in the manga yet, though I have not read a lot of them. --Anyr 19:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC)-- Anyr

Idea that will help everyone...

I loved back when the jutsu's were all in the same article, but now that they are seperated they are kind of difficult to find. I propose that we fuse all the jutsu's together into one article with all of the jutsu, and still have the individual articles. What do you peoples think? --Anyr 19:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

A single article becomes too long, that was why it was splitted. In fact, I am not sure if the Naruto jutsu should be in Wikipedia or in a Wikibook or Wikiguide instead. Having small and long articles can't be done, since it is much harder to have both branches synchronized. -- ReyBrujo 20:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Jutsus

This subject section is for the jutsu that you think should be somewhere else or not listed as a jutsu at all. I think that the Shikomishindan (Prepared Needle Shot) should not be counted as a Ninjutsu since it doesn't involve chakra, from what I can see, at all. It should be considered a Taijutsu or maybe a special class of "Weapon Jutsu" or something, but it just uses a weapon and doesn't really use chakra. Add a comment to this if you find another jutsu that should either be moved or somethign such as that. --Anyr 19:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

This is quite a good idea ^^ There are some jutsu I don't think should be listed.

Under Taijutsu, there is Hayabusa Otoshi (Peregrine Falcon Drop).

Under Ninjutsu, there are Chakura Kyuin Jutsu (Chakra Absorption Technique), Fukumikuchi Hari (Hidden Mouth Needles), and Muon Satsujin Jutsu (Silent Homicide Technique).

All of these 'jutsu' are not considered jutsu by the data books and, as such, should not be listed as jutsu. Also, I think all the jutsu that are anime only should be double checked. Although most of them seem right, some of them have wrong kanji (i.e. Fusajin no Jutsu (Dust Wind Technique)), or impossible translations (i.e. Hi no Hagane (Wings of the Sun))

I also think the entries for Kekkei Genkai on Naruto jutsu should be removed, since they have their own article (Kekkei genkai (Naruto)).

～卍 JadziaLover ^{会話~投稿} 卐～ 19:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

A bit off topic but I've not heard of any of these Jutsu listed above except Chakura Kyuin Jutsu... Is it just me or is Naruto getting a few more techniques? =\

--Datavi X 17:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

They are all listed in the ninjutsu ect. (^_^) --Anyr

I think the hidden mouth needles is because it uses chakra, atleast I think it does, to draw needles into the mouth, or possibly it might be a summoning thing. Though the databooks might not be updated to the current ones, but I don't know. I can't read the databooks since they aren't in English. --Anyr

jutsu from Naruto games

Do they really deserve to be listed? --Pentasyllabic 04:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Pictures of the Hand Seals?

Would it be a good idea to have a picture of the 12 hand seal symbols? I'd be happy to contibute the images form the manga... Yllianos 04:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

hidden jutsu

There are many jutsus listed with the type hiden, did everyone forget to spellcheck? The word is spelt hidden, not hiden. All of these references need to be edited. Everyone should help fix this. photodude 07:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

We have a note regarding this. The correct trasliteration of the term is "Hiden", which means secret. Please read the section. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Secret; mystery; secret formula (秘伝, hiden) –Gunslinger47 03:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what trasliteration perhaps you meant transliteration missing a letter makes a difference in understanding. In the same way hiden is not hidden. hiden is not a word and does not mean anything other then someone doesn't know how to spell in the English/American language. Where as hidden is a word, Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) hid·den –adjective

1. concealed; obscure; covert: hidden meaning; hidden hostility.

–verb 2. pp. of hide.

—Related forms

hid·den·ly, adverb

hid·den·ness, noun

—Synonyms 1. secret, veiled; occult.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)

Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

A bunch of random people getting together and writing hiden means secret; does not make it a word, correct spelling, or a transliteration. Hidden most closely means secret photodude 07:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

You seem to misunderstand... 秘伝 -> 秘 "hi" 伝 "den" -> "Hiden". This is a transliteration from the Japanese. The definition of "Hiden" is secret, mystery, secret formula which just happens to be similar to the English word "hidden". --Pentasyllabic 07:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

You should be able to understand my context fine. No need to go off on a rant about a typo. Like Pent said, hiden is the "Japanese" term, which seems to have gone over your head at the moment. We don't use secret or hidden because these specific ranks and such don't have an English translation. Until we get a non-scantalated databook, it'll have to do. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

perhaps i should avoid editing at 2 in the morning. what i was seeing was a typo and not a Romanization. at the late hour... transliteration was not clicking as synonymous with Romanization, i apologize for the shear waste of everyones time this has been. photodude 22:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I've become a fan of italicizing all Japanese terms as a visual queue to the reader. –Gunslinger47 17:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll second the motion of italicizing all Japanese terms; and will additonally suggest that it might be a good idea to include the glyphs with the transliterations in italics. photodude 22:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Chakra Elements

I don't know if there already is a section and I cannot find it, but I suggest that an article is created to describe all the different chakra elements. As in their strengths, their weaknessess, and some of the main characters who correspond with each chakra element. Such as how Naruto has wind chakra, and the strength of wind chakra is it's ability to "blow past anything and slice things to bits.", as Kakashi had put it. Mihangel 00:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Jutsu (Naruto)#Chakra *taps nose twice* – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

On a similer subject, when did Yamato say that light and dark chakras exist? Lascoden 01:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Whenever they started that little lesson in the first place. He mentions it when Naruto asks about medical techniques. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

On another note, when it srticle says "Certain kekkei genkai can also create unique elements, such as wood and ice, through a mixture of the basic elements, which normal ninja are incapable of doing." I am not sure if this is true. What about when Naruto and Yamato mixed elements to make the maelstrom technique? I believe it was Naruto who used the actual technique, not Yamato 142.167.164.18 23:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

That was a combo attack, not a mix. Yamato and Naruto combined their attacks to form a new one. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Sharingan

Sorry if I'm doing this wrong this is my first time in a discussion. I've heard that the Sharingan is called, quote Sasuke, "visual jutsu, or Doujutsu" (or something) from the dubbed version. Is this something to be noted?

Kekkei genkai#Sharingan. It's already noted. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Shinobi Tactical Knowledge

I think we should rank the jutsu according to their number

First Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Taijutsu

Second Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Genjutsu

Third Shinobi Tactical Knowledge : Ninjutsu

219.74.37.193 21:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe that's an official order. You're referring to the ordered list that Kakashi gave during the bell tests, right? –Gunslinger47 22:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Clan techniques

Should we simply put the clan in general as users of a certain technique (as seen at Shadow Imitation Technique), or only to the people seen using them (only Ino for Mind Body Switch Technique), as there appears to be a lack of consistency. Sephiroth BCR 01:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

So long as the jutsu is taught by the clan (or likely taught by the clan), labeling it as such seems fine. Jutsu developed by specific clan members, such as Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms and Shuriken Shadow Imitation Technique, should be left as whoever specifically uses it. ~SnapperTo 02:31, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Game techniques

Do they need to be listed? Most of them are pretty pointless to list, and they take up a lot of space. There is also the fact that they're essentially game guide material. TTN 01:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

They should be all cut. They fail notability and WP:NOT. Sephiroth BCR 01:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Just a thought, what would you say about making another alternate article for all the Jutsus (one for each) from the game, it won't take up as much space. SoundPound500000

Space isn't the issue; it's that the info is pointless. Feel free to place it here. TTN 21:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Game abilities can be mentioned in each character's article under an "Other media" section, though it needs to be limited to things that are unique and not variations of abilities they already have. An example would be a brief example of the kinds of attacks Naruto can use while in his "Might Suit" form. ~SnapperTo 23:02, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Light Chakra

Wouldn't Sakumo hatake's chaka blade be an example of light chakra? I put this in once, but it was deleted —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.113.158.98 (talk • contribs).

It has not been explicitly stated, thus it can't be included. Wikipedia:Verifiability. –Gunslinger47 00:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

It's in the name. "White light chakra blade". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.113.158.98 (talk • contribs).

You'd need to consult the original Japanese, but I'm fairly sure it was meant as "white light, chakra blade" and not "white, light chakra, blade". –Gunslinger47 02:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

It's light, and it's chakra. The way you sliced it up doesn't make much difference.

Hand seals

• Should Hand Seals really redirect here? I'm sure I've seen them elsewhere. (Off the top of my head, Sailor Mars uses them.) JuJube 07:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Hand seal

i have come to find out through lots of research what that each animal (of the hand seals) are connected to a element

	Wind	Fire	Earth	Lightning	Water
Rat	no	no	yes	no	yes
Ox	no	no	yes	no	yes
Tiger	yes	no	no	no	no
Rabbit	yes	no	no	no	no
Dragon	yes	no	no	no	no
Snake	no	yes	no	no	no
Horse	no	yes	no	no	no
Sheep	no	yes	no	no	no
Monkey	no	no	no	yes	no
Rooster	no	no	no	yes	no
Dog	no	no	no	yes	no
Pig	no	no	no	no	yes

and not only that each hand seal represnts ighter dark(offensive) or light(defensive) jutsu

Offensive	Defensive
Rat	Rabbit
Ox	Horse
Tiger	Sheep
Dragon	Rooster
Snake	Dog
Monkey	Pig

and this governs the type of outcome of the jutsu

for example if u where to use alot of fire jutsu in your hand seal and u where to use alot of defensive hand seals then you would make some kind of fire shild but if you use alot of offensive you would use a fire breath attack

i need more info to fully understand this subject

i would really love it if you guy can put in your two cents on this sunject

and if you guy agree on what i have found out please help me but this up on wikipedia

No original research. It is not going into the article. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 02:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Kinjutsu

just have a little line that explains at least something about it, i got it from the forbidden jutsu that Orochimaru knows that brings people back to life. Uzumaki Dude 00:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

"Kinjutsu, on the other hand, often do fall into one of the six main ranks, but are an exception because they are forbidden (or, at the very least, frowned upon) to learn or perform." ~SnapperTo 03:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Cruft

The "type" section of every jutsu, signifying the rank, range, and offensive or defensive nature of the jutsu, is really insignificant. Practically all the information is never noted the series (notable exceptions, Rasengan being A-rank for instance), and when it is, it can be noted for that particular jutsu. Removing them would be appropriate. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 03:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Rinnegan?

What happened to the article about the rinnegan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.76.123 (talk) 23:50, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

it is unique to Pain. No need to list it--Blue-EyesGold Dragon 08:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if it is unique to Pein, it is also a jutsu or import to the series, that means it also gets listed. --68.81.70.65 (talk) 11:49, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

A note to Blue eyes comment. The unnamed first shinobi mentioned by Jiraiya also possessed the Rinnegan. Just because Pain in the only one shown to have it thus far doesn't mean its unique to him in any way. 134.121.250.173 (talk) 00:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Concerning this...

Since Kakashi Hatake is able to perform the technique without taking off his mask, it can be assumed that the fire does not originate from inside the mouth. 1. I remember somewhere that you breath in some air, then exhale fire... Never mind this one... I misunderstood... sorry. 2. We cannot assume that Kakashi didn't remove his mask... after all we're talking about the guy who finished his ramen in 2 seconds! Ray93 22:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Old'd

Remember this discussion? It eventually dealt with the fact that there are too many jutsu lists and set out to fix the problem? If you haven't, jutsu details have been moved to the entries of the characters who use them, a task that was for the most part completed a few moths ago. The final step dealt with compiling whatever was left into a list that could be linked to, something I've finally gotten around to finishing. The outcome, seen here, I had intended to move to something along the lines of "List of recurring jutsu in Naruto", though I can easily imagine that being AfD'd. To skip that nasty step I thought relocating the information here would be simpler. Thoughts on the idea? Or anything else in particular? I don't imagine the redirecting of the eight articles this list covers would create problems, but I tend to be wrong about the attachment people have to such things. ~SnapperTo 19:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Merging it here would be fine. Size isn't an issue and it's better than having seven or so odd lists that attract vandalism and anons by the truckload. Meh, this brings back memories - I never got around to finishing this. Oh well, good job Snapper. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 19:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The merger is all fine and good I guess but can someone provide my a link to all the merged pages for info reasons?--TheUltimate3 22:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, now I am getting mad.

There is a reason for the images and the lists. Now, unless someone is planing on doing a full wika somewhere else with everything listed in it, then you can't Get rid of the other information. Just like the plot page, and the individual character page. You don't get rid of anything unless it's somewhere else already. GOT IT! --Shadow 18:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, we can get rid of anything so long as it contradicts Wikipedia policy or consensus decides in favor of doing so. This page removes the problem of having a half-dozen lists that attract vandalism by the truckload, and are essentially a collection of indiscriminate information. This merges them under a notable topic. In any case, read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA before making such a statement. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 19:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

So much for Wikipedia being a decent source of Naruto information. Go to leafninja or narutofan people, there's nothing to see here. 214.13.209.200 08:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Extremely disappointed to find all the useful information about the series on Wikipedia has been deleted for no good reason. Wikipedia was the best source of information about Naruto, and in the last few months it has unnecessarily made itself one of the worst. Detailed and useful information on characters and jutsu does not constitute a "plot summary", nor a "list of Frequently Asked Questions", nor "statistics", nor does it qualify under trivia. "Collection of indiscriminate information" is at best being bent to justify a very disappointed trimming; it is certainly not a relevant rule normally. 86.131.227.197 10:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

But it this way: If we hadn't merged that stuff where we could keep it nicely (I.E. Lists or merged topics or some sort) than the chances are VERY likely that it would have been deleted and that would have screwed everyone over would it.--TheUltimate3 10:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

You might as well just delete it, Ultimate. It's pretty useless right now. 214.13.209.200 11:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

First its THEUltimate or TheUltimate3 or simply TU3. Second, it serves its purpose for going over the jutsu that have been used more than once--TheUltimate3 20:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Third, that's a stupid, useless purpose. What would actually be useful is just having a list of all the jutsus in one place on one page, possibly broken up for length. Which is how it was done before you decided to make this page useless and godawful, instead of useful and purposeful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.144.2 (talk) 08:24, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I would like it if wikipedia does bring back the full list of jutsus. This is where I have been, (as well as many others) to learn more about the different techniques & using them in roleplay environments. I have looked several other places on the web, nothing compares to this. Pretty please, bring back these pages... >_< Kboogi 18:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree. There's a Naruto Wiki under construction. If this information (the full list of Jutsus) isn't going to be kept on the main Wikipedia site, add it to the Naruto Wiki instead, where we can use it. 69.141.234.101 01:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Isn't there already a Naruto Wiki? And...doesn't it suck? 214.13.209.200 11:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there is a Naruto Wiki and yes, it's quite bad. Why not go there and try to do something about it?Jacce 11:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

These Wikipedia mods are consistent in making their site look like a garbage source for Naruto informtation. As much as I don't like the opinionated information there, leafninja.com has officially become a better source. This is ridiculous. Intellect Ninja 22:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, wikkipedia needs a upgrade or else it would be another useless naruto site. 71.200.36.214 20:37, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I can already see what is going to happen.... some person is going to add like the whole list of jutsu into this one page, then someone is going to delete all the jutsu and then the arguments.................Eru illuv 08:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

One there is still the Naruto Wiki, that will be the "non-opinionated" source of info once more people come to help us along. And two, yes thats exactly whats going to happen, we will get an edit war and then nothing gets accomplished. So lets avoid that hm?--TheUltimate3 10:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

"Ok, now I am getting mad." -> I agree. Well, without the jutsu lists wikipedia became useless. Naruto Wiki sucks. So I think I will just check Leafninja... This is ridiculous. Aren't Wikipedia admins going to do something about this??!!Unown 23:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Would it be possible to make a Naruto Portal and place the lists there? I for one found Wikipedia a great source of information regarding the jutsu lists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nukedoom (talk • contribs) 03:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

See Wikia:Naruto:Jutsu. –Gunslinger47 05:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... another solution.

Instead of dumping all the jutsu here, why instead don't we add them all together, and a few more, into a topic like List of notable jutsu in Naruto or something, where we could talk more about the techniques than somewhere like here? As for the jutsu-in-general information, well, we could put it in the Naruto universe article I've started on. The tailed beast article has little hope at all for staying, Akatsuki (Naruto) is too common a target, Naruto ninja ranks can be shortened down very easily, and Naruto geography is terrible on its own. We could just merge all four together in one article about the entire Naruto universe, not just the geography or one specific detail of it. For the Akatsuki members and the Tailed Beasts, however, all I can think of is putting them in List of Naruto characters, and to try adding other characters there as well. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Look at GA-class articles such as World of Final Fantasy VIII and Ivalice as reference points. Although I agree that those articles definitely need to be merged, as there is almost no chance of them staying up under WP:FICT's purview, I would like to see a finished product first. Then we can clean it up and perform a proper merger. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 01:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

pleaseeee just bring back all the information, this site is getting worse every second from all the deleting, and i always come here for naruto information, and clarification —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.120.13 (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

You know, Sephiroth, part of the reason I linked to my in-the-makings article attempt was so I could get others to help work on it, as I alone am not able to do so. For example, I got rid of the absolutely useless countries, but what about ones with lesser details? Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 22:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps someone could provide a link to a wiki that contains all of the Jutsu information? That was a significant amount of information that is no longer accessible, and it seems like a waste to have it all gone (since their pages redirect here). Obrysii 21:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Ummmm.... I'm still waiting for some help with the final product, you know. ;_; Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 17:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Why the hell did you remove the lists?

I did brought back all the lists to "it's rightful state of being" because they were completely obliviated! I constantly consult these lists! Having them removed would be a very big mistake. I think hey were really, really useful, and, unless they're moved to NarutoWiki and the pages are properly linked to there, they should remain intact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.29.71.112 (talk) 18:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want to move them to a Wiki, go ahead. Just go to the page, click "Histories", and click the ones that isn't a redirect. DO NOT, however, bring them back, it was judged by a discussion (on this talk page) that we should get rid of them. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 19:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

How? YOue deleted them all, they are lost forever.... Big mistake.--Shadow 21:26, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Those lists are not accessible, and no link is provided to where they might now be found. Obrysii 21:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

They are not lost I can go to them anytime I wish. As simple as tying in the particular name of the Jutsu and then click on the little "Redirect from blah-blah-blah" at the top of the page. Boom all of them accessable.--TheUltimate3 21:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Truew the article is boring just why it so stupiud the way uve been shortning all the articles and pictures.I dont know why just why?

So it seems Wiki is pretty much useless now. Too many people are getting delete happy. Gune 21:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

First the images, now the lists...what next? wiki WAS useful, now is just a common page talkin bout things many other pages do. (September, 15)

You know, I have a feeling someone should remake the page, someone who is expert at this type of Wiki Coding, you know? I mean, how helpful was it to have a whole page of jutsu, so that if you were having a jutsu fight on an instant messenger, you could find your favorite technique and blow the competition away! I'm not doing it, I can barely Wiki Code as is (not that I'm saying I'm bad at HTML but that's different). Anyone agree with me? (September 14, 2007) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.211.116 (talk) 02:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

You know, you could all try looking up the character that uses the jutsu and see if you can find out what you want to know that way. That is, after all, where most of the information was moved to. ~SnapperTo 02:51, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I have to wonder why solid information like what the Naruto articles used to be is under scrutiny while poorly-written garbage like the Underworld (film) pages are untouched, and why the Bleach (manga) articles - even the ones that were consolodated - have so many images. Wikipedia is directing its admin wrath in the completely wrong direction. 214.13.209.200 05:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Ahem. "Concensus" has been cited repeatedly as the reason for the deletion of the lists. However, one person suggesting that changes be made, one person agreeing, and no official poll, or discussion on the matter, is NOT A CONCENSUS. You are in clear violation of the proper procedure for this type of article modification (changing frequently referenced and useful information sources into redirects because people MIGHT vandalize it, is not a logical or valid argument. If you removed every article that MIGHT be vandalized, there would be no Wikipedia. Period). Might I suggest, if you are so concerned that the articles might be vandalized, that you request protection against new or unregistered users? And since the information contained in the Jutsu lists is actually used by people as reference material, a lot of work was put into collating and verifying the information, and efforts have consistently been made to be rid of vandalism, throwing away everyone's work, and effectively giving in to those who vandalized, by allowing them to eliminate useful information sources, is not acceptable. Also, you seem to not be entirely familiar with what constitutes an indiscriminate collection of information. Familiarize yourself, please. Daishokaioshin 06:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Snapper2 decided to be bold and merge the lists, which were all suitable for deletion under Wikipedia: Notability (fiction), and instead put them into a more inclusive article that standards a greater chance of satisfying the aforementioned requirement. There never needs to be an "official poll" of any sort (polls are evil), and consensus rides in the absence of significant opposition. There has been no argument for reinstating the former lists aside from WP:ILIKEIT, which is not acceptable. It is irrelevant how "useful" the material is or how much work was put into the material in light of the fact that none of the lists could pass WP:FICT. Merging them to reduce the amount of vandalism is merely icing on the cake for the decision. Familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:No personal attack before resulting to insults against other users also please. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:09, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Umm. At what point was I insulting anyone? Can you point out to me ANYTHING I said that was insulting? I am very familiar with civility, and not launching personal attacks. It would seem you either misread or misinterpreted what I said, somehow. Please re-read my comment, and you will likely find that this was the case. Daishokaioshin 02:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Bull crap this articles terrible any other website could put that it was really good and intresting the old 1 the reasons to put back are good the otrhers are a waste of time, why uve been shortnening articles is beyond me but the shortned 1s are unintrestfing so stop! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.191.144 (talk) 15:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, not to be rude IP:66.84.191.144, but that took ALOT of energy to read. But from what I got from it was "the article is uninteresting to read", and you're right, it is. However its still here which is better than nothing.--TheUltimate3 15:32, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I stop reading the discussions on Naruto for two weeks and some book burning fascist deletes every list of Genjutsu, Taijutsu, and Ninjutsu. Could some one sum up for me a Who & Why on the subject so I can correctly direct my anger and frustration, please. Oh and before anybody complains if you take my facist remark personally thats not my problem -- JayStream12 01:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Damnit people read the disscussion before you rant! I will tell it once more, before I rename this topic it my answer: IT WAS MERGED BECAUSE MOST OF IT WAS (IN ESSENCE) CRUFT! IF WE KEPT THE CRUFT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DELETED SO WE (AS IN THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY TAKE THE TIME TO EDIT THE ARTICLES) DID THE ONLY REASONABLE OPTION LEFT TO US AND MERGED THE IMPORTANT ONES AND MOVED THE SPECIFIC CHARACTER ONCES TO SPECIFIC CHARACTERS. Got that? Everyone understand? Alright, we're not going to complain about it anymore. That gets nothing done. If you have a problem, present it reasonably, so we can use these pages as they should be for, discussion. Alright? Understood. Ok then.--TheUltimate3 02:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

First off thank you for such a speedy response to my "rant." Second after reading your high and mighty paragraph I eagerly checked your page but did not find and indication that you have the right to order me around (if it was hidden somewhere I apologize). The problem I seem to find is how some 5+ pages of information were merged into various lists, as most characters no longer have their own articles, (but that’s a rant for another day) without their seeming to be any change at all to character's information. Also, how is it that "CRUFT" (whatever the hell that means) has been around for so long without a major problem and suddenly it must be immediately deleted? Finally the fact that you feel you can order me around because you feel you have contributed so much to Naruto on Wikipedia means nothing to me. This is because almost all of the Naruto articles are embroiled in conflict or have been deleted, sorry "merged." (tag your it!) -- JayStream12 02:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You're right I don't have the right to order you to do anything. However, like I said it would help if some people who wish to rant (Like yourself) would read the discussions before making a long or semi-long rant that I have to waste my God given time to read and reply to and instead give us something to work with. That being said while I don't know the actual it would be wise to check WP:Cruft for the definition of cruft, but from what I have managed to gather, cruft is essentially stuff that is only interesting for fans, and have no relevence to the actual article in question. Hence, the long lists were lost, instead replaced by recurring jutsus, and the less important jutsus were moved to their characters, where they CAN be kept. And your last point just seems like mindless rambling to me as you jump from telling me my "order" means nothing to you, then you jump to the conflicts of Naruto articles. I personally don't see how these two topics are relevent to each other but whatever.--TheUltimate3 02:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

My request for a "quick Who &Why" was mostly laziness so I’m sorry. I was not aware someone was going to hold a knife to your throat until you explained the issue to me in a unnecessarily long rant (which I though you hated???. Next, I would like you to give an example of "cruft" that was on those lists if you could, if you like you can consult the copies of the list which are still available on Answers. This way I know exactly what you mean. Of course I have a suspicion of what really happened but I will hold my "tongue" as I may be wrong. -- JayStream12 05:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

"Cruft" is defined as something you could not hope to care about unless you are an extremely rabid fan of the material. Saying Dynamic Entry is D-ranked is an example of cruft, as who the hell cares what meaningless designation a simple kick is given? Earth Release: Earth Flow Rampart is another example, since there is no reason why you need to know what the single-use process of creating a hill is called. As for why there is no apparent difference to character entires, that's because the jutsu details were moved there months ago and we never got around to getting rid of the lists. You can find what you want to know there; it might not be referred to by name, but the effect should at least be mentioned assuming it isn't a throwaway technique. ~SnapperTo 05:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

My request is that instead of having fire release: great fire ball technique, we could put fire techniques talking first about great fire ball, and then about others, we could also create earth techniques, some of the jutsu info have been deleted from character info and I wanred to know if we could put its rank, note: Im mad about the change happened in the jutsu list now I want to improve this list, see you. ~Tintor2 19:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Note what the article says: "The following are jutsu that are commonly used throughout the series by more than one character." The majority of fire and earth-based abilities do not have this privilege, and thus their details belong elsewhere. ~SnapperTo 02:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

My complaint is that some of the tequniques for minor charters and all havent been put on and i tthink u should make 1 time pages that includes movie jutsu and one time seen 1s by a certain charater its a suggestion but do move the the move the info to movie chraters most (notable).Blanknothingoknaruto 22:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)Blanknothingoknaruto

There is no need for such an article. Simply add the missing information wherever it would be most appropriate. ~SnapperTo 02:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Also it is not just minor movie characters that are missing jutsu information. For instance the paragraph on Shino Aburame makes no mention of his Bug Wall, Bug Gathering or Bug Jar Techniques. Apparently the merge was not as thorough as has been claimed. -- JayStream12 19:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Shino's jutsu receive passing mention in his entry and are detailed in this article. ~SnapperTo 21:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

About the great fire ball, we could add that Jiraiya can power-up this jutsu using the oil of Gamabunta. Tintor2 15:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it somewhat obvious that you can make a bigger flame by igniting oil? ~SnapperTo 19:04, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Its also obvious there was no point in removing the jutsu lists. Gune 16:16, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I hope you know Wikipedia is now dying cause you 'smart' guys think is the right choice to remove and edit things like it is a toy. I actually liked the freaking lists! Who the hell cares that YOU want it to be only a few. Most of the Naruto Wikipedia people were content with the lists. So GJ you ruined yet another page you deserve a *****SLAP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.4.123 (talk) 22:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I also loved the lists. Doesn't mean it was Wikipedia worthy however. To many one time techniques are not needed in this Encyclopedia Im afraid. --TheUltimate3 23:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not Wikia:Naruto. Take the lists there. They'd be happy to have them. Cross link to Wikia from here if you want our readers to have easy access to more information. (eg. Wikia:Naruto:Rasengan) Problem solved. –Gunslinger47 04:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

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Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Taijutsu

Why are their main articles gone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yxgtree (talk • contribs) 20:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Read above.--TheUltimate3 20:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

WHERE DID THEY ALL GO!!!!!!!?????????Uzumaki Dude 00:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Blood Line Traits

Can someone basiclly just give me a description of what blood line traits are, what they do and what types are there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.184.59.200 (talk) 17:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a speacial trait passed down from the family. Like the Sharignan. Only Uchiha member's have it, beacuse it run's through there blood. Unlike Kakashi who has it beacuse of Obito. Tho it put's enormus strain on Kakashi's body, beacuse he is not of the clan. But having the Sharignan and you not being a Uchiha meens you can't handle it as well as those that are from the clan. Rather then those that aren't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.189.156 (talk) 04:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

That's what this page (kekkei genkai) is for. :) –Gunslinger47 04:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Medical jutsu

Shouldn't this should be one of the recurring jutsu as well? 129.78.64.100 04:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Rasengan

Naruto never showed he can now produce the Rasengan with one hand. Please delete or otherwise verify the claim that he can, which by the way also occurs in the Naruto Uzumaki article.

I'd do it, but right now I'm not sure how to articulate how integral Kage Bunshin is for Naruto to perform Rasengan. Basically it's a high level jutsu that Naruto has nonetheless managed to master via a clever workaround or hack: the Kage Bunshin jutsu, which allows him to divide the demanding task into simpler components. One clone for regular Rasengan, two for Futon Rasengan; that is already clear. One would think he would eventually learn to do it with one hand, but actually he doesn't even need to since using Kage Bunshin costs him virtually nothing.

Thanks in advance to the willing editor. --Lionelster 18:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

In NARUTO Shippuden, episode 14 when fighting itachi Naruto did demonstrate the ability to do Resengan with one hand. 71.200.36.214 20:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I think you mean episode 13, and I'm not surprised this is the only event cited to support the claim, yet very poorly. Naruto was shown holding a Rasengan charging at Itachi, but not the process of producing it. It's not uncommon for his clone to disappear after completing a Rasengan. Besides, if he has done it once he should be doing it every time since, yet that's not the case. --Lionelster 01:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Not canon, shippuden filler 201.150.69.235 03:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Chapter 258 disagrees with your perception of "not canon". ~SnapperTo 18:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

SnapperTo's right in the sense that the anime showed exactly what was in the manga: the whole process of forming the Rasengan was skipped, we see Naruto already charging at Itachi with one. That's not proof he formed it with one hand. Do not jump to conclusions. --Lionelster 05:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I've done the revisions myself. They are on articles Rasengan and Naruto Uzumaki#Abilities. Specifics of Rasengan removed from the latter; a link to Rasengan is included in their stead. --Lionelster 06:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

But what about the time in the "Valley Of The End" when in his 1 tailed state he did Resengan with one hand, doesn't that count? 71.200.36.214 10:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

This has already been discussed quite thoroughly. See Talk:Naruto Uzumaki/Archive 3#WTF?!?!. –Gunslinger47 13:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I only wanted to make you remember that if you pay attention when Naruto uses that rasengan against sasuke he used red chakra hand as a 2nd hand.

Tintor2 21:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

you know he did the rasengan with one hand the first time he faced kabuto (if i remember correctly)--Blue-EyesGold Dragon 12:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

He stopped Kabuto's attack by letting the kunai slice through his hand and then used a shadow clone to form the rasengan. He didn't do it with one hand there either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.146.65.44 (talk) 17:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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Can someone tell me the jutsu Chiyo uses with those 3 white puppet's? And the vacumm destruction thing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.189.156 (talk) 04:45, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

It was called (Sanbou Kyuukai: Buddha's Three Treasures Vacuum Destruction) 71.200.36.214 10:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

You know, I once thought that Wikipedia wasn't much. Untill I wanted to look for somethign about Naruto, I found the list of Naruto jutsu from (A-Z) and I was like "WOw..this is the best source for jutsu better then SaiyanIlsand >> But now I find the list are gone..and it's replaced with a couple jutsu...no one want's to know about a 'Couple' jutsu's >> I know I don't. SO now I don't see why they removed the list..for god sake's bring the list back I'm sure there is a reason you people took it away..a really stupid reason, but still a reason. Though it wasn't good enough! We want the list!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.189.156 (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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Edit to Water Techniques

The article currently states that the only known exception to a person using a water jutsu without a preexisting source of water is for Water Wall. However, in chapter 373, Yahiko uses Suiton: Mizuranppa (Water Release: Chaotic Waves) from his mouth. This is debatable because it was raining at the time that he used it, but I don't think that would count seeing as how it wasn't a large volume of consolodated water and he spit it out, rather than forming it in his hands or the like. 214.13.209.200 13:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Stupid question

In the 2nd databook in the shiki fujin article it says the only user is sarutobi hokage, maybe minato is not there because it wasnt seen but in the rasengan page it puts minato as an user maybe what minato taught sarutobi was how to summon the death god, but Jiraiya mentons minato used the shiki fujin(chapter 370 more or less). Can sby explain this? ~Tintor2 10:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

In the second databook, Sarutobi was the only listed user. The databook lists are not meant to be complete. –Gunslinger47 20:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but what does it mean? Arent supposed the databooks to be complete? so can you make sure that Minato used the shiki fujin? . –Tintor2 21:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Yys, Minato did use the shiki fujin, on the Kyuubi. We hae solid evidence that the jutsu was used by the Minato in the form of one hyperactive knuckleheaded ninja. Sasuke9031 22:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Water Techiques

If "Listing jutsu at random is not helpful", then what other options are proposed? Are we to just ignore several of the jutsu in the category specifically designated for them? Feebas factor 03:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I see no issue with excluding them. They are all used exactly once, so their absence is not detrimental to anything. My edit summary, however, referred to the fact that naming a jutsu is of little use if an effect (or a link to the effect) does not accompany it. ~SnapperTo 03:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Decided, it has been!

The Kekkei Genkai page is to be deleted. SO User:TheUltimate3/Kekkei Genkai here we have an archive of the article. Our current mission, move whatever is considered "recurring" to the Jutsu page, and letting the others fall into Oblivion.--TheUltimate3 13:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

One more step in the wrong direction. I give it maybe two or three months before Naruto is condensed into one article, consisting of a single paragraph and no pictures. Another month after that and it'll be merged with Dragonball, because they're obviously so similar. 214.13.209.200 13:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

We could try and move on from this set back, use the Naruto Wiki (which unless you choose to be a vandal of a theif, I encourage) OR you could sit around and cry about what can't be helped. I like to choose the first 2.--TheUltimate3 14:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't we put the merge the information and condense it in the Jutsu page? σмgнgσмg 01:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

The ones used by more than a single person should be here. The others are placed at that person's section in the lists, like Pein or Ranmaru or Haku. Only the Sharingan, Byakugan, and tree thing are used by more than one person. It's also possible to put each on the clan's section in the Land of Fire. Either way, such information is too valuable to delete like it was. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 02:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

If anything, the Rinnegan could be mentioned-and/or-detailed in Peins section. We could simply reword the Gentle Fist section into the Byakugan, add the Sharingan, with mention of Itachi's M-Sharingan in his section, and Kakashi's in his article, the Wood Release with Yamato, and the other Kekkei Genkai's could go with their respective characters.--TheUltimate3 02:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Sharingan

At the moment, there is no mention made of the Sharingan, which has played a major role in the series, moreso than several of the technique listed. In fact, following the merge of Kekkei Genkai with this article, there seem to be no specific kekkei genkai listed here at all. Should several of the major techniques from this category, such as the eye techniques and possibly Mokuton be added to this page? 24.24.90.148 01:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

User:TheUltimate3/Kekkei Genkai a archive, save the images. Merge the Byakugan with the Gentle Fist section, add the Sharingan, and probably move the Mokuton in the article and/or in the Yamato section.--TheUltimate3 02:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Mangekyo makes you blind?

When was it said that "It has also been implied that use of the Mangekyo Sharingan may deteriorate the user's normal eyesight" ? Is it a speculation? Tintor2 22:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

During the encounter between Itachi's clone and Kakashi's team, Kakashi asks Itachi how bad his eyesight has become shortly after a long discussion on Itachi's abilities with the Mangekyo Sharingan. Itachi's surprise, in addition to his following statement, which implies Itachi's knowledge of Kakashi's Mangekyo, solidifies this thought. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I read that chapter of manga in spanish, but from what Kakashi said I could only deduced that Itachi uses too much chakra for the Mangekyo. Tintor2 00:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Then you need to read a better translation. His eyesight is said to be failing. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Wait, I watched that episode. Yes it may be true. Tintor2 01:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Possible GA run

Given that I stumbled upon conception information for jutsu, this article could possibly have a GA run. That said, the biggest thing that needs to be found is reception. Merchandise of the characters performing jutsu, their presence in video games, and other media is one set of items. Reviews of individual episodes often comment on jutsu, and can be used to produce a reception section. As for the in-universe material, anything that isn't horribly necessary should be removed. The remaining material should be sourced. Mind you, <ref>''Naruto'' manga; [chapter number], [page number]</ref> is not acceptable in this case. The relevant citation template is {{cite book}}. However, the former method of citation is fine at the moment until it can be properly sourced. It at least allows us to verify where it is. Specifics can come later. Anyhow, we can get this to GA status. It simply will require a bit of effort. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 01:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what kind of reception there would be aside from offhand comments. Jutsu don't strike me as the type of thing any kind of publication would take a critical look at. Rasengan and/or Chidori might have received some peculiar analysis at some point in time, though I've no idea where that would be. In any event, I'd be happy to replace inadequate citations with {{cite book}} equivalents, or even look for inadequate citations to get the ball rolling. ~SnapperTo 04:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Sharinwhere?

What happened to the image of the Sharingan? I think its one of the most important things of the series and Kakashi is always seen by his Sharingan. If we put the Kugutsu, the gentle fist stance, Mangekyo of Kakashi etc, why we dont use the image of the Sharingan? And I wanted to say that this page its better than that old list, so I retract of what I said before, speciallly yo Snapper that I said to him that.(offtopic) Tintor2 10:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

What the fuck is that??!!??!!

Who the hell deleted the list of Jutsu??!! What is this crap??!! Are you fucking stupid or somethin??!! Wikipedia is shit now!! My grandmother would do better site than this fuckin piece of crap!! Fix this shit you fucking fools!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.20.14.40 (talk) 16:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

1) Be f-ing bold. It won't help you here but thats the reason this place is a Wiki. 2) No personal attacks. Really it makes you look like an idiot. 3) Learn to read what's already posted above. If you can't do steps 1-3, then I suggest moving on to step 4) Go to Leafninja.com they have all the jutsu's in their origianl japanese names--TheUltimate3 (talk) 16:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Redirections.

If you merge articles (argh +,...+) you should correct all redirections. It's a bit strange when I type "Gamabunta" and it leads me here.--Deerstop (talk) 01:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Kakashi's Mangekyo sharingan

isn't it possible that Kakashi has gotten the mangekyo before the events of part one and then Itachi was referring to him when he said there would be three people capable of using it as it may have been that he had it but just didn't use it, as for I know there no where were is implied that he doesn't have it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadow Silver X (talk • contribs) 13:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

When Kakashi first reveals his Mangekyō Sharingan to Naruto, Naruto asks "Is that what you mentioned before?" referring to the scene after the second bell test, where Kakashi boasts about having developed a cool new jutsu.

So no, Kakashi developed his Mangekyō during the time skip and didn't have it at the time of the Uchiha massacre. JadziaLover (talk) 14:54, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

My opinion is that the third Mangekyo user that Itachi was referring to was probably Madara Uchiha, mentioned in Shippuuden episode 1 and onwards. It definitely couldn't have been Kakashi, as Itachi didn't know Kakashi had the Mangekyo, or at least didn't suspect it, until Kakashi fought the Itachi clone. I think Madara Uchiha is supposed to be revealed later in Shippuuden. I also heard a rumor that one of the Akatsuki referred to himself as Madara... Anonymous 14:54, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

According to the latest chapter, Itachi is indeed referring to Madara. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.52.151 (talk) 01:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)