Talk:Juárez light rail station
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Requested move 22 September 2022
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The result of the move request was: Move a ton of articles. Wheee! - UtherSRG (talk) 23:51, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- Juárez railway station → Juárez light rail station
- Arcos de Zapopan railway station → Arcos de Zapopan light rail station
- Auditorio railway station → Auditorio light rail station
- Ávila Camacho railway station → Ávila Camacho light rail station
- Central de Autobuses railway station → Central de Autobuses light rail station
- Circunvalación Country railway station → Circunvalación Country light rail station
- CUCEI railway station → CUCEI light rail station
- Guadalajara Centro railway station → Guadalajara Centro light rail station
- Independencia railway station → Independencia light rail station
- La Normal railway station → La Normal light rail station
- Lázaro Cárdenas railway station → Lázaro Cárdenas light rail station
- Mercado del Mar railway station → Mercado del Mar light rail station
- Mexicaltzingo railway station → Mexicaltzingo light rail station
- Periférico Belenes railway station → Periférico Belenes light rail station
- Periférico Norte railway station → Periférico Norte light rail station
- Plaza Patria railway station → Plaza Patria light rail station
- Plaza Universidad railway station → Plaza Universidad light rail station
- Refugio railway station → Refugio light rail station
- Revolución railway station → Revolución light rail station
- Río Nilo railway station → Río Nilo light rail station
- Santuario Mártires de Cristo Rey railway station → Santuario Mártires de Cristo Rey light rail station
- Santuario railway station → Santuario light rail station
- Tlaquepaque Centro railway station → Tlaquepaque Centro light rail station
- Zapopan Centro railway station → Zapopan Centro light rail station
– Useddenim recently moved Juárez station citing that "railway" is not used for light rail stations. I'm going to guess this is a Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations) standard (example: Pico station) that merely applies to US articles. WP:Trains has no real naming conventions and that's why train stations have inconsistent names. However, Useddenim merely moved just that station, the rest remained intact, which create WP:TITLECON issues as the Module:Adjacent stations/Guadalajara light rail system has its own configuration. Although most of the Guadalajara light rail stations can be titled X station (or X station [city]), there are some vague titles like "Central de Autobuses station (Guadalajara)". A normal reader would expect an article like that to discuss the bus station rather than the light rail station. Or "La Normal station", is it talking about the light rail station or is it talking about the bus station adjacent to it? And the style indirectly affects the Xochimilco Light Rail stations that are yet to be created (Tasqueña metro station vs. Tasqueña station (Xochimilco Light Rail)(?)). This is pretty much why I opened the related RM at WP:Trains two years ago. Back then, however, only Juárez and Refugio stations had articles, so there was no point to discuss the Guadalajara system. This is why I propose to replace the current titles with "light rail", a style that is already in use with other systems like Category:G:link stations or Category:Circular light rail stations and follows the current style used for Mexican transport stations. (CC) Tbhotch™ 19:18, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I had intended to move all the Guadalajara stations from Xxx railway station to Xxx station (per WP:BEBOLD) and started with Juárez station (Guadalajara) which was the only one immediately requiring disambiguation, but RL interfered. Useddenim (talk) 14:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think it would be appropriate to rename all station pages to X light rail. Consider the fact that Line 3 is not light rail, but a metro/rapid transit system (the definition in light rail can be helpful to understand the difference). It is already misleading to name Guadalajara's urban train system the Guadalajara light rail system.
- Rename these as light rail:
- Auditorio railway station → Auditorio light rail station
- Juárez railway station → Juárez light rail station
- Mexicaltzingo railway station → Mexicaltzingo light rail station
- Periférico Norte railway station → Periférico Norte light rail station
- Plaza Universidad railway station → Plaza Universidad light rail station
- Refugio railway station → Refugio light rail station
- Santuario Mártires de Cristo Rey railway station → Santuario Mártires de Cristo Rey light rail station
- Rename these as metro:
- Arcos de Zapopan railway station → Arcos de Zapopan metro station
- Ávila Camacho railway station → Ávila Camacho metro station
- Central de Autobuses railway station → Central de Autobuses metro station
- Circunvalación Country railway station → Circunvalación Country metro station
- CUCEI railway station → CUCEI metro station
- Guadalajara Centro railway station → Guadalajara Centro metro station
- Independencia railway station → Independencia metro station
- La Normal railway station → La Normal metro station
- Lázaro Cárdenas railway station → Lázaro Cárdenas metro station (Guadalajara)
- Mercado del Mar railway station → Mercado del Mar metro station
- Periférico Belenes railway station → Periférico Belenes metro station
- Plaza Patria railway station → Plaza Patria metro station
- Plaza de la Bandera railway station → Plaza de la Bandera metro station
- Revolución railway station → Revolución metro station (Guadalajara)
- Río Nilo railway station → Río Nilo metro station
- Santuario railway station → Santuario metro station
- Tlaquepaque Centro railway station → Tlaquepaque Centro metro station
- Zapopan Centro railway station → Zapopan Centro metro station
- By the way, @Tbhotch you forgot to include Plaza de la Bandera railway station SistemaRayoXP (talk) 17:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- If there is no major opposition to the RM, we could also move Revolución metro station and Lázaro Cárdenas metro station away. For the main article, maybe it's time to updated the title as well to the full system itself. (CC) Tbhotch™ 18:15, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with the RM and with moving away Revolución metro station and Lázaro Cárdenas metro station. SistemaRayoXP (talk) 17:11, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- Agree with both. Useddenim (talk) 14:58, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Should Guadalajara light rail system be moved to SITEUR, Sistema de Tren Eléctrico Urbano, or Urban Electric Train System? 15:02, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Given that Monterrey's metro system has an article named just as its system (Metrorrey), Guadalajara light rail system should be moved to SITEUR or Sistema de Tren Eléctrico Urbano (I prefer the long version but if it's more convenient then move it to the shorter version). SistemaRayoXP (talk) 18:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- I believe the WP convention is to use names spelled out in full, with acronyms as redirects. Useddenim (talk) 14:08, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Given that Monterrey's metro system has an article named just as its system (Metrorrey), Guadalajara light rail system should be moved to SITEUR or Sistema de Tren Eléctrico Urbano (I prefer the long version but if it's more convenient then move it to the shorter version). SistemaRayoXP (talk) 18:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- If there is no major opposition to the RM, we could also move Revolución metro station and Lázaro Cárdenas metro station away. For the main article, maybe it's time to updated the title as well to the full system itself. (CC) Tbhotch™ 18:15, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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