Talk:Joyce Ballou Gregorian

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Improving the article

I think a short article like this looks better without all those subdivisions. The useful headings would be "Works" with subheadings, "References". I will change it, if no one objects. Any opinions? Zaslav (talk) 02:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I object. In my humble opinion it looks better now than it did. It has room to go somewhere. See Wikipedia:Layout. clariosophic (talk) 03:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC) Also see Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography. The lead needs to be improved. References need to be added to each section even though they may appear to be redundant. clariosophic (talk) 03:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with Clariosophic, having subsections will help the article. VartanM (talk) 19:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To be specific: The headings "Works" with subdivisions and "External References" are basic apparatus that certainly belong. But subdividing a very short bio into four parts looks ridiculous, IMHO. If you will help expand the article to, say, half the length of the parental bio, then the extra headings will make sense. Until then, not. But, I'm not going to take them out, and please do expand the article! Zaslav (talk) 08:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section "Arabian horses" badly needed cleanup, and after my attempts to improve it, it still does. Zaslav (talk) 00:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clariosophic added a link to Al Khamsa, the organization. This seems pretty peripheral. There is an internal link to the article on this organization (which needs expansion); there one finds the link to the organization's Web site. I propose deleting that external link here. Comments? Zaslav (talk) 03:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added it because it appeared that the organization article would be speedily deleted. clariosophic (talk) 11:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sensible. Thanks. Zaslav (talk) 05:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added content relative to horses. She was the president of Al Khamsa and so fleshed that out. Added some content relative to research on Carl Raswan. Raswan does not have a Wikipedia entry however, so some of the content placed here may not be relative to this article. I also added content relative to her leadership of the Armenian Library and Museum of America, as this exists under the tag of Armenian Americans. Also, I find it odd to be referring to Joyce Gregorian as "Joyce" throughout the article. In an encyclopedic entry, is it common to refer to the subject by their first name? ShirinS (talk) 14:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, it isn't; I've corrected that. I wish there were more (verifiable only) here about her SF series, cherished by many. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that there is much written about her trilogy, except that it often appears on children's librarian lists as an option for those who have finished Harry Potter. It's unfortunate as I'm not even sure that her trilogy is a children's fantasy. ShirinS (talk) 16:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Her books are more young adult than chilrens fiction-there is sex and complex adult relations- and she also whote a book of short stories-named after the central characture- starts with 'C', which I read in the early nineties. 12:08, 18 September 2011 (UTC)60.226.161.225 (talk)

Obit in Locus

Does somebody have access to her obit in Locus? I'm sure it could help us flesh this out a bit. It was in Locus #366 (July of 1991). --Orange Mike | Talk 16:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Joyce Ballou Gregorian, author of the “Tredana” fantasy trilogy, died in early May, 1991, of cancer, in Massachusetts General Hospital. She was 44.

Born in Boston, MA, Joyce Gregorian graduated from Radcliffe College in 1968. She was president of her family’s rug business, a lecturer on Armenian and Mideast subjects, a breeder of Arabian horses (president of the national organization of Arabian horse breeders), and a composer, operatic soprano, and harpsichordist who gave occasional musical recitals. As an expert on oriental rugs, she compiled catalogues for universities and museums.

Her “Tredana” trilogy began with The Broken Ciadel (Atheneum 1975) and Castledown (Atheneum 1977), concluding with the Ace original The Great Wheel (1987). The fantasies are set in a magical Middle Eastern land.

She is survived by her husband, John B. Hampshire, her parents, Phebe (Ballou) and Arthur Gregorian, and a brother and sister.

If someone needs it then here's the cite data^[1] (view in wiki-edit mode). I tried to include the entire obit in the quote section but it did not look pretty. Marc Kupper (talk) (contribs) 04:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, cited in article, data used. Zaslav (talk) 05:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Obituaries". Locus: The Newspaper of the Science Fiction Field. 27 No. 1 (366). Oakland, California: Locus Publications: 61–61. July 1991. ISSN 0047-4959. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

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[1] "Obituaries". Locus: The Newspaper of the Science Fiction Field. 27 No. 1 (366). Oakland, California: Locus Publications: 61–61. July 1991. ISSN 0047-4959. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

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