Talk:Journal of Emerging Investigators

This article was nominated for deletion on 19 April 2015. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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Text and/or other creative content from Journal of Emerging Investigators was copied or moved into Undergraduate research journal. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... The Journal of Emerging Investigators is an non-profit educational organization (with 401c3 status) dedicated to providing mentorship and publications opportunities to secondary-school students worldwide. As an educational organization affiliated with and funded by Harvard University, The Journal of Emerging Investigators qualifies as an educational institution and under the CSD A7 guidelines is not eligible for speedy deletion. The Journal of Emerging Investigators is the only organization that is free of charge and guides students through a professional scientific manuscript publishing process. As so, it has been featured by media sources such as CNN, Forbes, and Nature magazine, and is rapidly growing in prominence, with increasing participation from students and teachers around the country, as well presence at the major national and international high school science fairs, such as the Massachusetts State Science Fair, the Philadelphia Science Festival and the Intel ISEF.

A different organization catering to undergraduates, the Journal of Young Investigators (JYI), offers similar services and has had its own wikipedia page for several years.

--Mspringel (talk) 22:31, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is not an "educational institution", but journals don't fall under A7 either. However, every subject needs to meet our inclusion criteria (and WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not enough...) If this journal has indeed been "featured by media sources such as CNN, Forbes, and Nature magazine", then please add those sources, because at this point, there is no indication that this journal comes even close to being notable. If the PROD tag is removed without sources added to the journal, I will take this to AfD. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 11:12, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just fyi, the fact that a similar page The Journal of Young Investigators exists is not considered a valid argument for keeping this one. Reasoning is, each page is judges on its own, according to whether sufficient reliable sources discussing it exist. But, now that you mention it, The Journal of Young Investigators is a woefully paltry page, has been that way for years (there's s way to click and see the edit record) Someone is needed to clean up that page. This also explains one reason why some editors are so eager to delete new articles on relatively minor topics. They know, as new editors do not, that paltry, poorly sources, badly written on minor topics can stay up for years, and constitute an embarrassment to Wikipedia, which desperately needs more editors.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]