Talk:Josh O'Connor

Josh O'Connor was nominated as a Media and drama good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (January 13, 2022). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Place of birth

O'Connor's place of birth seems to have been changed from Cheltenham to Southampton on 12 January 2019, with no supporting evidence.

Maybe he was born there but reference No.2 at the foot of the entry links here http://www.verge.is/article/josh-oconnor/ - and the article in question includes the query: Where are you from, to which O'Connor replies: I’m a Cheltenham boy. Cheltenham is a peaceful spa town in Gloucestershire, which is southwest England, and about two-and-a-half hours from London. It’s very old England with beautiful Victorian houses. The most Gloucestershire thing about me used to be my accent because it was very distinct and thick, but I lost it. Now I’d say it’s the fact that I love the countryside. I live in London now and I don’t fit in there; it’s clear that I need to be by trees and fields. I’m a true country boy.

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Josh O'Connor/GA1.

Reviewer: Olivaw-Daneel (talk · contribs) 00:19, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Interested in taking this on. I'll have comments up in a couple of days. Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 00:19, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are a large number of quotes, which per MOS:QUOTE may violate copyright – suggest summarizing/trimming. Also, quotes should not be italicized.

Earwig detects ~60% similarity to multiple sources. This is mostly due to quotes, but there are also instances of close paraphrasing – see these comparisons to The Guardian and En Primeur.

In terms of broadness, the article lacks coverage of the critical reception of O'Connor's acting. Most of the quotes are from people he is affiliated to (his director, co-stars or himself); reviews from independent sources such as The Independent or The Guardian are needed. Given the large number of awards he's won, such reviews should be readily available, especially for The Crown.

Coverage of Gods' Own Country, which appears to be his second-best known work, is also limited. There's no mention of the fact that it's a romantic drama, or that it has gay characters; and based on a quick search, there's no lack of sources. E.g. the BBC, The Guardian, The Telegraph, which term the film the "British Brokeback Mountain" and commend O'Connor's acting.

For his other work, I think at least the genre should be mentioned (e.g. "the crime drama Lewis", "science fiction show Doctor Who"), and for the more major roles, a description of what it's about.

There are neutrality issues with titling a section Artistry (perhaps change to "Acting style"); with the sentence His success in the movie confirmed his place on casting agents' scouting radar as one of those subtle, humble chameleons who can disappear into parts and are dubbed "actor's actors", which frames an opinion as fact; and with The fact that The Crown upholds and validates the monarchy, which has the same issue.

His place of birth is not mentioned in the cited source.

It would be helpful to wikilink the website names in citations, so that it's easy to verify if they are reliable. E.g. Interview Magazine, AnOther, En Primeur.

What makes the following sources reliable? En Primeur, Grantham Matters, YourTango, 45secondes.fr. (For En Primeur, their FAQ implies some of their content is user-generated, but I'm not sure if that applies to their bio pages.)

Some instances of clunkiness in the prose: in Early life, O’Connor has cited his school's drama program as that which helped him live with his dyslexia; in Critical acclaim with The Crown, saying that it did not excite him thinking he cannot add anything to it; multiple uses of contractions (see MOS:N'T).

he [...] eventually birthed over 150 lambs is unfortunate phrasing – suggest changing to "delivered" or "helped birth".

The lead is a bit too short for an article this size; please expand it to provide an accessible overview of the body (MOS:INTRO).

That's it for a first pass. I'm not sure if these issues are resolvable within the usual timeframe of a GA review, but I'll leave it to the nominator to decide. Placing it on hold. Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 05:01, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's been 10 days and the nominator hasn't responded, so I'm going to have to fail this. I've enjoyed the actor's work and would love to see this be a GA at some point, so best of luck with it. Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 06:54, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Possible Heir to the "Bunting Tea Fortune"

"“I guess in a weird way it didn't feel very naturalistic at all. It felt like these people were speaking so well about their emotions. I had spent most of my career to this point playing working-class people, people who were perhaps less able to articulate their emotions. (O'Connor, an heir to the Bunting tea fortune, is aware of the irony here)."

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/cahirodoherty/josh-oconnor-emma-the-crown-hope-gap

^ This article from 2020 is the first and only mention of this 'tea fortune'.

Sourced from the wikipedia entry on John Bunting, his maternal grandfather: "Bunting was born in London, England, the son of Bridget E. (McElearney) and Bernard L. M. Bunting, a tea broker."

Interesting factoid. However, it's hard to find any more info on Bernard L.M. Bunting's business. 96.40.129.176 (talk) 07:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]