Talk:Jos Buttler/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sarastro1 (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC) A well written, fairly comprehensive article about a fairly short career! My main issues are with referencing.[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead

"Buttler enjoyed a prolific cricket record while at school, being one half of a record-breaking opening partnership while at King's College, Taunton in 2008, and the following season his school lost only one of seventeen matches under captaincy, and he was named 2009 Young Wisden Schools Cricketer of the Year." Long run-on sentence. Also, is "shared a record breaking opening partnership" better than "being one half of"?

Is it worth saying what the record partnership was, even though it's in the lead?

I'm not sure that it's worth stating the specifics here, given it is expanded on only a little more in the main part of the article anyway.

Should the lead state that he made his debut for the Somerset first team in 2009?

Done - added.

Early life and career

"Buttler played extensively for Somerset's youth teams, appearing at Under-13, Under-15 and Under-17 level." Is there a ref for this?

Done - added.

Who did he play against on his debut for Somerset 2nd XI?

Done - added.

"The highlight of his school career came in April 2008, when he scored 227 not out during a record-breaking opening stand in a 50-over national schools game, scoring 340 with Alex Barrow." Use of "scored" and "scoring" very close together; maybe "putting on 340" or "adding 340"?

Done - changed as suggested.

"the Somerset Second XI" doesn't quite sound right, but it could just be me.

Done - removed 'the', although I don't think it makes a difference either way.

"With captain Carl Gazzard keeping wicket in the majority of these matches, Buttler played purely as a batsman" Is there any way to reference this? I don't doubt it's true, and I am possibly being pedantic.

I'm not really sure how it could be referenced, short of citing the scorecard for all the matches, which seems slightly like overkill?

Agree that is too much. It really needs an article of some sort which says it all nicely, like some sort of profile. Not sure there is one.--Sarastro1 (talk) 21:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not really much written about Second XI cricket.. Harrias ^talk 22:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The image in this section needs Alt text at some point.

Done - added.

First team opportunity

"Buttler made his maiden first class century scoring 144 against Hampshire in May 2010." Ref for this? I suspect it's a very recent addition!

Done - yeah, added by an IP user. I've reworded and cited.

"...and made starts in each of the following matches, reaching double figures on each occasion, but not scoring higher than 28." Does this need a ref?

Done - added.

"He joined up with the squad in Bangladesh following Somerset's elimination from the Champions League Twenty20 for the seven-match youth ODI series. As with his previous appearance for the Under-19s, Buttler played as a specialist batsman, but failed to make a significant impact until the final match..." Again, I think this might need a ref, as the only refs given are scorecards.

What sort of reference do you want? The scorecards themselves show that he is playing as a specialist batsman (as opposed to a wicket-keeper batsman). Beyond the scorecards, there isn't really anything I can provide.

I take your point. What about here? But it may be impossible to do thoroughly, so fair enough! --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... how about this? Harrias ^talk 22:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seems fine.--Sarastro1 (talk) 09:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

General

Needs PERSONDATA.

Done - added.

Images fine.
All links fine.
Sources are reliable.

As I said, the prose is good and even though it's pretty much a list of scores and performances, it reads well. It seems a bit short as the chap hasn't played much and no doubt the article will expand as he plays more. I think that it could do with fleshing out a little. Are there any details about his personal life? At the very least, a comment about when and where he was born in the main body of the article, not just the infobox. Or any judgements on his performances or potential, particularly for Somerset or England U19? Does Wisden have anything?

If this doesn't exist, it's fine but I just wanted to check. I do think that some more refs and sources are needed, so I'll put it on hold. Don't see any major issues, though. --Sarastro1 (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't really much of any note, purely due to his age. If he simply hasn't had enough cricket to have an article long enough to warrant GA status, I can accept that, although looking around, there are a fair few quite short GAs. Harrias ^talk 20:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found a few general references about him here and here as well as Wisden 2010 pp. 935-6. It might give a bit of general background if it helps at all, but feel free to ignore it as I think you might have better stuff yourself. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think he has enough info for GA status. I'll wait and see what you think about what I've said, but it's probably almost good to go now. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's ok now. Presumably more will become available once he's played a bit more and more is found out about him. --Sarastro1 (talk) 09:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]