Talk:Jorge Leite

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The edits by LMÑ57 seem to be the work of someone who is either a friend/family member of Mr. Leite or Mr. Leite himself. In particular, this edit [1] is very concerning. The edit summary here reads: "By stating more information regarding the person knowingly on a personal level. The Wikipedia seems to have been written only with the crudest of information about the individual in question that was deemed innocent in the end". First thing, personal knowledge of a subject of an article is not verifiable. Second, if LMÑ57 does indeed know the subject of the article, this editor should not be contributing to this article. The fact that the only article this editor has worked on is this article is very typical of the editing style of the people who are either the subject or know the subject of the article. Finally, Mr. Leite was NOT "deemed innocent in the end". He was convicted of corruption in 1999 as numerous RS state, but only received a suspended sentence, which he meant he served no prison time. Being convicted and receiving a suspended sentence is not the same thing as being acquitted.

The edits by LMÑ57 appear to be fan-based as this editor made assertions that seemed intended to glorify the subject such as the unreferenced statement that he served in the French Foreign Legion (one of the world's premier military units) and the claim that the RCMP was amazed by Mr. Leite's "high IQ" when he applied to join in 1987. The source being cited, Hells Angels At War by Yves Lavigne does not say that at all. The claims by LMÑ57 made in this article are besides for being badly written seemed intended to glorify Mr. Leite. In this [2]j where LMÑ57 editor that wrote that because of "local Respect was arrested in the highest of fashions". Or this edit [3] where LMÑ57 wrote: "Today more in known of Leite and his real intelectual attributes such as an obvious level of IQ having not only passed university testing for himself but for 7 more colleagues and having written over 200 history thesis under “unknown”, also later having the nickname of “Silencioso”". Or this edit [4] where LMÑ57 wrote Mr. Leite's "high levels of IQ testing". In the same edit [5] LMÑ57 wrote: "Leite is a short man standing 5'4, but his experiences as a Marine and experience in combat compensated for his diminutive stature, as he tested and regularly beat younger and larger recruits." Or this edit [6] where LMÑ57 wrote that Mr. Leite "solidified relationships with the cartel, however later it was revealed that his superior who later commuted suicide had authorised the whole of the negotiations as information was also received. Granting the RCMP one of the largest drug apprehensions at the time.Jorge was there having orquestrares the whole thing". Note the use of the Portuguese word orquestrares for orchestrated in that sentence. That suggests this editor is Portuguese and Mr. Leite is Portuguese. Mr. Leite lived in the United Kingdom in the 1970s, and it was there that he apparently first learned English. LMÑ57 uses British English spelling instead of American English spelling like the way this editor writes organise instead of organize as shown in this edit: [7]. That might not be a slam-dunk, but does suggest that this editor is in fact Mr. Leite.

A major concern here is the way that LMÑ57 has presented Mr. Leite's defense at his trial in 1999 as a fact. Mr. Leite claimed that he was not corrupt, but only posing as corrupt by selling Mountie secrets as part of an ultra-secret undercover operation ordered by Inspector Claude Savoie who was conveniently dead and thus was not around to either confirm or deny this claim. There is absolutely no documentary evidence to support this claim. Savoie committed suicide in his office in 1992 and presumably there would be papers left around showing that Leite was working on Savoie's orders. No such documents were ever found. It was most unusual that the only officer involved as the handler in this alleged sting operation was M. Savoie. Normally, there would be several officers involved instead of one. Mr. Leite claimed that he handed over the bribe money he took to Savoie, but did not ask for receipts, which was a major violation of the RCMP rules. Indeed, for someone supposedly endowed with this extremely high IQ that astonished the RCMP that was an exceptionally stupid thing to do. If Mr. Leite was working undercover, he would had been wearing a wire, and none of the sources cited say that. And if Mr. Leite was working as an undercover officer for Savoie, why did Savoie single out Leite to Internal Affairs in 1991 as the officer most likely to be corrupt? That does not seem to make much sense. Why did Mr. Leite leave Canada so suddenly and abruptly in May 1991 and then go into hiding? And why did the RCMP charge him with corruption if he was really an undercover officer working for them? Surely, Savoie would have stepped forward to clear his name if he was really working as an undercover officer for him. And why was Mr. Leite found guilty of corruption at his trial in 1999?

Finally, LMÑ57 claims with no references as usual that the information gathered by Mr. Leite resulted in one of the "largest drug apprehensions at the time". When and where this drug bust took place is not mentioned. If Mr. Leite was working as an undercover officer, the Crown would called him as a witness for the trial of the accused, but there is no evidence that ever happened. Mr. Leite's main contact with the underworld was a Colombian woman, Inès Cecila Barbosa, who served as the Montreal agent of the Cali cartel. Ms. Barbosa was convicted of money laundering, not the corruption of a public official. Mr. Leite was not only her business partner, but apparently also her romantic-sexual partner as two RS say he was dating her in 1990-1991 despite being married to a nurse. Ms. Barbosa was very generous in her gifts to Mr. Leite and opened up a joint bank account with him, which does seem to support these claims. Her gifts to him could had led her to being charged with corruption of a public official, but she was apparently romantically involved with him at the time, and so her defense lawyers would have no doubt argued in court that these were just gifts from one lover to another. It is not clear how all these gifts that Ms. Barbosa gave Mr. Leite led to her conviction for money laundering, and there is no RS saying that.

What they show in films and television where police officers date and have sex with witnesses and suspects all the time is mostly rubbish. The RCMP and all of the other various police forces in the western world have very strict rules which state that a police officer must never have a romantic relationship with a witness and even more so with a suspect. To use a recent example, Staff Sergeant Derek Brassington of the RCMP, known as a "cop's cop" and reputed to be the best detective in BC, led the investigation into the Surrey Six massacre of 2007. A model and former girlfriend of Jamie Bacon (whom the police believed was the man behind the massacre) was willing to testify that Mr. Bacon ordered the massacre. However, Mr. Brassington despite being married had a torrid affair with the model who is known only as Jane Doe due to a court order. When Jane Doe became pregnant with his child, she pressed him to divorce his wife and marry her. When he refused to do so, she went public with the affair, which nearly destroyed the Crown's case. Mr. Bacon's lawyers were able to have the judge exclude Jane Doe as a witness under the grounds she was having sex with Mr. Brassington when she gave her evidence, and therefore might had committed perjury. Without Jane Doe as a witness, the Crown had to drop the charges of first-degree murder against Mr. Bacon and make a plea bargain where he pledged guilty to the lesser charge of conspiracy to commit murder.

For having a romantic relationship with a witness, Mr. Brassington was fired from the RCMP and one of the charges he was convicted of was breaking the rules against having a relationship with a witness. Mr. Brassington was facing the more serious charge of fraud as he billed for overtime pay for a three year period when he was in fact drinking at various bars and strip clubs, collecting thousands of dollars in overtime pay that he was not entitled to, but that is another matter. He ended up making a plea bargain in 2019 where he pledged guilty to the breach of trust and obstruction of justice charges in exchange for the fraud charges against him being dropped. Mr. Brassington insists that he was deeply in love with Jane Doe and that his heart got the better of his brain here, though his unwillingness to divorce his wife to marry Jane Doe after she became pregnant would seem to suggest otherwise. He might as well had done that because his wife divorced him when she learned of the affair. Mr. Brassington was planning to stay with his wife and just keep Jane Doe on the side as his mistress, which is not what Jane Doe wanted at all, and is very hard to square with his claims that Jane Doe was his "soulmate". Who keeps their alleged "soulmate" on the side as a mistress? His message to Jane Doe was quite brutal when she demanded that he marry her, namely something to the effect that I like you, but I'm never going to marry you because I have a wife and two kids. It seemed that he exaggerated his feelings for Jane Doe in the courtroom to make himself appear more sympatric as he faced one count of breach of trust. He also claimed ridiculously that it was "job stress" that drove him into the affair. According to him, he did not want to have sex with a really attractive model in her 20s, it was just was the "job stress" that was the issue here. It is impossible to reconcile these claims that "job stress" made Mr. Brassington so incapable of rational thought that he had an affair with a witness while at the same time he insisted that she was his "soulmate". It sounds like he was just trying to use any excuse as he faced his day in court. Mr. Brassington really made a mess of the Surrey Six case and he is the reason why Jamie Bacon is going to be released from prison soon. There is nothing wrong about being in love assuming that Mr. Brassington was telling the truth, but in this matter, Mr. Brassington should had recused himself from the Surrey Six case after he got involved with Jane Doe instead of carrying on. If he done that, something might had been salvaged from the case, instead of having it turn into the disaster that it became. This is not meant to sound judgmental, but once he developed feelings for Jane Doe, he really should had done what any professional policeman/policewoman would do in a case like that, namely recuse himself/herself from the case. A policeman/policewoman must always have an objective outlook on a case, and all Brassington had to do was say to his superiors that he longer had an objective outlook on the Surrey Six case, but apparently the "job stress" made that too difficult for him.

For the RCMP, for a Mountie to have a relationship with a witness is egregious as the Brassington case shows, but to have a relationship with a suspect is far, far worse. Any evidence that Mr. Leite collected in his alleged undercover work with Ms. Barbosa would have been excluded in court under the grounds that he was apparently in a romantic relationship with her at the time. All of the RCMP officers interviewed in various RS cited say that they believe he was dating Ms. Barbosa at the time of his supposed undercover work. If he was really an undercover officer, he would have been charged with breach of trust, namely violating the RCMP's rules against sleeping with a suspect, and the fact that he was not shows that he was not working undercover as he claimed. The RCMP would never tolerate a Mountie having a relationship with a suspect. It is also interesting that LMÑ57 removed the sourced info that Ms. Barbosa was an overweight, unattractive middle-aged woman. She was very good at money laundering, moving some $75 million U.S dollars of cocaine profits from Colombia though various banks in Montreal between 1989-1992, which would seem to suggest that she was intelligent, but she was not a great beauty. Looking at at the article as written by LMÑ5, one might think that Ms. Barbosa was a hot Latina babe and it was a great accomplishment of the part of this macho Marine turned policeman and an alleged intellectual who can apparently do anything to seduce her. This is not meant to be mean here, but Ms. Barbosa was a woman who greatly enjoyed male attention and who did not get much in the way of male attention. The fact that she committed suicide in 2006 would seem to suggest some emotional problems on her part. Given all that, it is not surprising that she fell for Mr. Leite when he apparently expressed a romantic interest in her.

All of the RS say that Mr. Leite was guilty of corruption and the edits by LMÑ57 are an inversion of reality. All of this seems to suggest a conflict of interest here on the part of LMÑ57. A.S. Brown (talk) 23:08, 1 April 2023 (UTC)