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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that President Donald Trump watched the 2019 film Joker with his friends and family at the White House and reportedly enjoyed it?

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... that President Donald Trump watched the 2019 film Joker with his friends and family at the White House and reportedly enjoyed it?

Improved to Good Article status by Some Dude From North Carolina (talk). Self-nominated at 16:46, 2 September 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Passes DYK check, article promoted to GA on September 2, 2020, hook properly cited and matches reference contents. --benlisquare_T•C•E 14:25, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Carson

Is no one mentioning that Murray Franklin shares strong visual similarities with Johnny Carson? From the White Suit Top to the Colored Curtains etc?

This wouldn't also be the first time DC Comics has in general made a characterization of a celebrity comedian only to have them brutally murdered. Other victims of this include Abbot and Costello, and David Letterman.

Is there an honest reason for this? Maxcardun (talk) 17:03, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to cite a reliable source that discusses any of this. DonQuixote (talk) 21:32, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but I just find it strange no one spoke about this yet. Maxcardun (talk) 16:17, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Letter to penny

@Crboyer reverted my recent edit. He totally missed the boat, lol. I was referring to the note that the joker finds on the back of a picture of penny, it reads something like "you look beautiful. -TW". It's a very short scene. He finds this note only after he already killed penny, who was apparently actually his mother. I wasn't referring to the original letter he found addressed from penny to Thomas. I'm not great with editing, so I welcome someone to restore my edit. Thank you. 174.251.64.46 (talk) 16:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken a second look. Here are some points. 1. In your edit summary, you said it was an important point that the letter proves Arthur killed his mother by mistake. But at this point, Arthur doesn't exactly care. If he were to, say, repent for that, then it might be an important point. 2. Penny's mental state was repeatedly called into question before then. For all the film knows, she could have written that letter herself.CRBoyer 17:14, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're correct that he didn't express regret, but I don't think the film intended for us to suspect Penny wrote that note herself. Its not in her handwriting, and it's signed by Thomas. Further, Thomas's character is clearly revealed to be the type of man who would definitely have forged the papers to cover it up, as Penny herself claims in the flashback we see. I do believe it is important enough to mention in the plot summary, although it it a short scene. I welcome everyone to give their opinion so we can arrive to a consensus. JoeJShmo (talk) 19:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the critical reception not mentioned in summary section?

Why does the critical reception not mentioned in summary (top) section? Ashokkumar047 (talk) 17:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

he > Phillips, or they?

When reading this article I was struck by the following: "Phillips and Silver otherwise did not look to specific comics for inspiration, nor did he [???] wish for it to be connected to any prior Batman film continuity." I started to change "he" to "Phillips", but stopped myself because I didn't know whether it was Phillips alone or both Phillips and Silver, in which latter case "he" should be changed to "they". In any event it should be changed to one or the other. Which of the two is it? Bret Sterling (talk) 05:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]