Talk:Johnny Hates Jazz

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Removed All Music Guide Copyvio from Page

The page needs a rewrite. I removed this from the page, directly lifted from the All Music Guide's biography at this link:

The British/American trio Johnny Hates Jazz, had Spandau Ballet's striking attire, clean-cut looks, and knack for smooth, glossy pop songs, that were more soulful than the critics gave them credit for.

Unfortunately, like Spandau Ballet, Johnny Hates Jazz were stigmatized in the U.S. by an omnipresent hit, that burned out interest in the group before the rest of their discography had the chance to be heard.

Johnny Hates Jazz was formed in 1986 by Clark Datchler (vocals, piano), Calvin Hayes (keyboards), and American Mike Nocito (bass). Named after a friend who despised jazz, Johnny Hates Jazz released their first single, "Me and My Foolish Heart", on RAK Records that year. The band searched for a major-label deal, and they were signed by Virgin Records after a gig at, ironically enough, a jazz club near the end of 1986. The group's debut single for Virgin, "Shattered Dreams", rocketed them into superstardom in 1987. "Shattered Dreams" landed at number five on the UK singles chart, and number two in America. The band's debut LP, "Turn Back The Clock", appeared in 1988, going multi-platinum in the UK and in the USA.

While none of Johnny Hates Jazz's subsequent singles took off in America, they launched a hit parade in the UK, as "I Don't Want to Be a Hero," "Turn Back the Clock," "Heart of Gold," and "Don't Say It's Love" followed "Shattered Dreams" onto the airwaves. However, despite this success, Datchler departed from Johnny Hates Jazz in the summer of 1988. Datchler was angry at how the other members were reinterpreting his compositions, and decided to pursue a solo career, recording "Raindance" in 1990.

Hayes and Nocito replaced Datchler with producer and former Cure member Phil Thornalley on Johnny Hates Jazz's 1991 effort "Tall Stories". Although it didn't sound that different from "Turn Back the Clock" -- "Let Me Change Your Mind Tonight" could have fitted perfectly on that album -- "Tall Stories" was a commercial disaster. Johnny Hates Jazz promptly broke up.

24.199.116.198 11:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Erm

The pages that belong to the actual albums need to conform to the album page guidelines.

Merge of Mike Nocito

Unless the Mike Nocito article is going to be significantly expanded in the near future with properly sourced information related to Mike Nocito alone (as distinct from his contributions to the band), I believe it should be merged into this page. Those searching for Mike Nocito will still be able to locate him where the information has context. --Moonriddengirl 15:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the stub at Mike Nocito a redirect here. --Moonriddengirl 18:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neeeds More!

Needs a lot more. What about influences? Musical style. Is there a template for music groups? 208.53.116.182 (talk) 04:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)amyanda2000[reply]

Clark as "Nightfoxx"???

Wasn't there a reference here to Clark moving his family to a Native American reservation in Arizona a few years ago and legally changing his name to "Nightfoxx"?...just curious...Baldwin91006 (talk) 03:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here and Now Tour '08

"In September 2007, Calvin Hayes announced that he and Mike Nocito, with a new vocalist, Danny Saxon, would be reforming Johnny Hates Jazz. They intend to join the Here and Now Tour at Butlins, Minehead between 16-19 November 2008 for four nights. If successful, the band hopes for more dates in 2009."

These sentences are now out of date: does anyone have any recent information on the band? Did they do the tour? Are they gigging again? Dom Kaos (talk) 17:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing

The present article needs more references adding, to support the paragraphs currently without any citations. Please also maintain a neutral point of view in future editing.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:22, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

tour dates

Any tour date--Milkshake78 (talk) 15:01, 16 July 2014 (UTC)s on Johnny hates jazz coming too Wisconsin?[reply]

Thornalley era

The article seems rather inconsistent on the Phil Thornalley era - the timeline reads as if the band was fully operational from 1986-1992, with Thornalley replacing Datchler for the latter four years (so being the band's vocalist for more of the original period than Datchler was). The article text seems to have the band breaking up in 1988, just noting in the 'Post break-up' section that "Nocito went on to make another album under the JHJ banner with Hayes and Thornalley entitled Tall Stories." Does anyone have any idea which version is more accurate? TSP (talk) 00:05, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]