Talk:John Stango

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Will definitely work on improving this page. Most of the material has been taken from the artist's bio and from articles in the mainstream media. Open to suggestions for changes, edits, etc. (Wikiforyou82 (talk) 17:51, 17 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Just made a number of changes that take down the tone, making it more appropriate for a Wikipedia article. Again, open to suggestions for further edits. As it stood before, the page did not properly speak to the role Stango currently plays in the pop art world. I hoped to remedy that with these edits. (Wikiforyou82 (talk) 17:51, 17 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

After adding all of the articles I used in my research as citations, I think that I have addressed many of the issues noted by User:Brossow. I have also changed a good deal of language to reflect a more neutral viewpoint. I will now remove those tags unless User: Brossor or any others object. If there are objections, please let me know what other changes should be made. Thank you for your help. (Wikiforyou82 (talk) 18:14, 17 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

There are still major issues with this article. It reads like a laudatory review and is full of peacock language. --Daniel 19:01, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel, thank you for your input. The majority of the language come straight from newspaper and magazine articles. Could you propose some specific changes? (Wikiforyou82 (talk) 19:08, 17 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks to everyone for their help with this. I put in a good deal of time conducting research for the article, and want it to be Wikipedia worthy.(Wikiforyou82 (talk) 19:11, 17 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Just working on some formatting changes now. (Wikiforyou82 (talk) 11:09, 18 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Copyright violation

Even after recent cleanup, I must note that large swaths of text in this article -- in fact, the vast majority of the article as a whole -- are taken verbatim from the artist's self-published biography. If it can't be rewritten from scratch to eliminate the obvious copy/paste and flow like a real encyclopedia article, it seems an easy target for deletion as a serious copyright violation (even if it's claimed the artist gave permission). B.Rossow · talk 16:09, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I too have concerns about notability. While there are a couple of independent sources, they don't amount to much and they aren't in the most reliable sources. --Daniel 16:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I must also note that, after a careful review of this editor's editing history, it seems increasingly likely that there's a conflict of interest between the editor and the articles being edited (the other being Coro (non-profit organization)). Similar copy/paste editing in large blocks from the subject's website happened in the Coro article as well (and still exists after similar warnings on that page) and my gut feeling is that this is the work of a hired PR person. If there's a conflict of interest (e.g. if this editing represents work for hire), at the very least it needs to be disclosed. B.Rossow · talk 16:34, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everyone. I am happy to clear up the issues voiced here. As for the Coro article--that was my first stab at editing a Wiki. I am not employed by or even associated with Coro. I read about them in a college class and found that their article was lacking. As for the John Stango piece, I am John's cousin. After talking with him on numerous occasions, I noticed that his Wiki did not reflect his actual role in the art world or the type of work that he does. I hoped to remedy that by incorporating the sources you see and information from conversations with him. I am very open to making this a legitimate article and would like to know how best to proceed. I did my best to use information that could be backed up by references. Again, please let me know what else I can do. As a newbie editor, I am still figuring out how all of this works. Thanks for your help. (Wikiforyou82 (talk) 18:08, 18 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Just made some language changes that I hope make it sound more like an encyclopedia article. I also responded to the need for a few citations, finding citations for some and removing items for which I could not find a citation.(Wikiforyou82 (talk) 18:35, 18 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Hi Everyone. I am hoping to address continuing concerns as soon as possible. Let me know how best to proceed. (Wikiforyou82 (talk) 16:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

It needs to be rewritten from scratch so that it isn't taken near-verbatim from Stango's self-published website. This is not a reliable, neutral source of information nor is it appropriate to copy/paste text from such a website into a Wikipedia article, changing only occasional words here and there so it's not 100% word-for-word identical. B.Rossow · talk 16:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]