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Another John H. c. 1873 - 1918. Not a politician but appears to have been a prominent businessman who also attended Hampton Institute so need to be care when researching. S0091 (talk) 18:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ms.Bard as you can see, I did some work on the draft. I removed details about his family because I cannot find secondary sources and I summarized some others. I also could not find secondary sources supporting who his wife was and we can't directly use census records or the like and the obit does not give names. I think I can back into the number children between his obit and that of his son, Jr. (the doctor). If there are are no secondary sources that support his wife was Maggie, then it will need to be removed and we will just state he was married (supported by obit).
I thought I had found some additional sources about his business and civic activities but then I came across the above person and the sources were not clear which John H. (yes, yet another!) so I removed it. We also need a source for his post-retirement. Some of it is supported by the VA Encyclopedia bio but not all of it. If I accidentally removed the source, please just add it back, (here the version before my latest changes). There are also some additional sources about his political activities. See footnote #5, which has some info which you can use to expand it and there's more on Newpapers.com I can add. Oh, and please to do copy wording used by sources. You need to summarize sources in your own words to avoid copyright violations and quoting needs to be limited. (No worries!). S0091 (talk) 19:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, too bad census records are not considered evidence of relationships. :-(
I guess marriage licenses nor birth records are considered secondary sources either.
Maybe one day my research paper will be considered a secondary source. :-)
Anyway, the draft looks great. Thanks for all your hard work.
All the Best Ms.Bard (talk) 02:58, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ms.Bard the problem with census data is it is often wrong and requires at least some original research which is not allowed on Wikipedia. I do use ancestry.com as a tool to facilitate finding secondary sources, though (i.e. when did a person die so I can find an obit, etc) and believe me, I have found information I wish I could use but can't because I was unable to find a secondary source. As for your paper, if it is published in a reputable peer-reviewed journal or the like, it can certainly be used here. S0091 (talk) 19:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]