Talk:John Barbirolli

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The main article dates Barbirroli's New York tenure as 1937-42 but several other sources (e.g. www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/NYPO.htm] give it as 1936-41. Do you have any references for the later dates?

It seems to be a little complicated: [1] The news of Barbirolli's appointment as Toscanini's successor in late 1936, only weeks after Barbirolli had taken up a temporary appointment with the orchestra as guest-conductor, shook the music world... the 1937-38 season was Barbirolli's first full season with the orchestra. and On 6th and 7th March 1942, Barbirolli gave his last pair of Saturday/Sunday concerts in the 1941-42 Philharmonic Season (his last season as permanent conductor). So it seems he was appointed in 36, appeared as a guest conductor and chief conductor designate in 1936, and then was chief conductor from 37-42. Mark ¹ 10:58, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks: I'll change the succession box to 37-42 and also the list at New York Philharmonic 69.12.144.158

I've changed the emphasis in the introductory paragraph. It seemed strange to emphasize the London Phiharmonic and London Symphony Orchestras when Barbirolli was never principal conductor of either, while he was principal conductor of the Halle orchestra for a very long time and was also music director of the New York Philharmonic, one of the most prestigious position in the world. I mentioned first Barbirolli's long ties to the Halle Orchestra and NYPO before including the LSO and LPO among the other orchestras Barbirolli conducted. I also added material about the music with which Barbirolli is most associated. Grover cleveland 08:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Television show

An editor has added this: "Barbirolli was the subject of This Is Your Life in January 1957, in the programme's very first outside broadcast, when he was surprised by Eamonn Andrews at the BBC's Dickenson Road Studios in Manchester." I think perhaps this may be notable for the article about the TV show but is not notable so far as Barbirolli is concerned. What do other users think? Tim riley (talk) 08:20, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestry?

I was curious to find out a little more about where his family came from. A rapid google indicates that his father came from Venice. MistyMorn (talk) 17:10, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I gather that with any undisciplined Italian orchestras JB would let them have it good and proper in his most raucous Venetian. They thought they were getting a verray parfit gentil knight and found instead that it was a case of Mad Doge and Englishman. Tim riley (talk) 18:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's priceless, Tim! MistyMorn (talk) 19:09, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"This is your Life" may or may not be marginal. but perhaps Barbirolli and the Halle's appearances on the then new commercial TV Granada station in the late fifties should be remembered, at least as evidence for the short-lived attempt of British ITV to come to terms with high culture.Delahays (talk) 11:01, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TFAR notification for John Barbirolli

I've nominated this WP:FA quality page for "Today's Featured Article" consideration, nomination is at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/John Barbirolli. — Cirt (talk) 00:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Additional relevant free-use images at Wikimedia Commons

Additional relevant free-use images at Wikimedia Commons -- if anyone's interested, see commons:Category:John Barbirolli.

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— Cirt (talk) 00:32, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the tightly cropped front image by a wider version. In particular, it shows that Barbirolli smoke. Materialscientist (talk) 00:11, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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