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Conspiracy Theories

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DJ Silverfish 03:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused -- what exactly are you disputing here? That there was a meeting, early in 1944, in John Abt's apartment, between Abt, Elizabeth Bentley, Victor Perlo, Charles Kramer, Harry Magdoff, and Edward Fitzgerald? Or the specifics of what was discussed at that meeting? Or something else? And, what exactly is the "conspiracy theory" that you are alleging? Also, what is the "original research argument" here? Something in the article, but not in the references quoted? What exactly? Please clarify your objections, referring to this specific article, and to the subject at hand. Thanks. Turgidson 04:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As someone who just stumbled across this page, it reads like a lot of hearsay and innuendo. If BLP applied, a lot of this stuff wouldn't make it, not by a country mile. 98.216.11.183 (talk) 03:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of Factual Basis

This article recites bare allegations against John Abt and the "Ware Group" as being historical facts. From what I've seen, no one has ever produced credible evidence of these allegations against Mr. Abt, and from evaluating this article, I see no revelation of hitherto undiscovered proof that justifies posting such accusations to an internet encyclopedia as if they were true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben.Remahl (talk • contribs) 01:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I am removing the banner -- and inviting this critic and all others to stop wasting time on banners and start making constructive changes Aboudaqn (talk) 11:36, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]