Talk:Johann Nelböck

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What happened to Nelböck afterwards??? (note: moved from main article by 131.130.121.106 17:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]

The book, Wittgenstein in Vienna, by By Allan Janik, Hans Veigl, has more information about Nelböck, including information about his subsequent career. Even before Schlick was murdered, both the right-wing Catholic clericalists and the Austrian Nazis had made Schlick one of their primary targets for elimination from the University of Vienna, both because of the atheism of the Vienna Circle, and for their connections with the Austrian SPD. Curiously enough, Schlick himself was a member of the Patriotic Front which supported the current clericalist dictatorship as the lesser evil to the Nazis. Anyway, Nelböck himself seems to have intellectually rather flexible. An erstwhile logical positivist, he soon became a Catholic-universalist and then a Nazi, who proclaimed that his murder of Schlick to be an act of service to National Socialism against the "Jewish" teachings of Schlick. In the post-World War II period, Nelböck worked for the Soviet Oil Administration and he took Russian classes to help further his new career.

JimFarm (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:54, 14 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Really really REALLY needs a source!

"Schlick . . . later slept with Nelböck's wife." You can not leave this unsourced; how is a reader to know whether this was a fact, or merely a lie disseminated by the Nazis in order to ameliorate Nelbock's culpability by defaming Schlick? It really needs a source. Hi There 14:46, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I want to add this stuff, but I don't know how to add a source at the bottom of the page. But this is discussed in the book "Carnap and the Vienna Circle," on page 84. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.84.22.27 (talk) 01:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I've added a couple, but it's difficult to find anything reliable in any language that has much to say about Nelböck beyond the fact that he shot Schlick, and it remains unclear exactly what N's grievances against S were. The story about S sleeping with N's wife gets mentioned, sometimes in an alternative form that they fell out over a female student of Schlick's, but not on the more authoritative sites. Obviously all information was heavily propagandised from the start. No idea what he did in and after the war, although it seems he survived it.HeartofaDog 01:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Homosexuality and Nelboeck

The article on Schlick has a section that says "Nelboeck claimed that Schlick's philosophy had "interfered with his moral restraint" - by which he probably meant that under the encouragement of Schlick's philosophy he had indulged himself homosexually." Is there any support for this? If there is not much information about Nelboeck, or as the above author said that it is hard to get a clear answer through the fog of war propaganda, that itself should be noted on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.30.2.130 (talk) 20:51, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Empirism

Can someone with better German than I have please check the title of Nelbock's thesis? I expect it is Empiricism, not Empirism. But given the ease of creating neologisms in German I can't be sure enough to change the text. Thanks! Dionlindsay (talk) 17:09, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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