Talk:Joe Walsh/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ritchie333 (talk · contribs) 16:46, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to review this.

I see immediate issues, directly relating to TonyTheTiger's previous GA review here. I noticed a key problem was a lack of inline citations to reliable sources, and I can still see this is the case. For a biography of a living person, these are essential and I will not pass any article as GA until every paragraph and quotation is cited, or (in rare cases) I am confident the information will never be challenged. I am also concerned that this GA review was requested almost immediately after the previous one failed. While it's possible to do that, I would expect a typical diff to have substantial changes, such a large addition of references.

Other obvious problems are short sections in a somewhat confusing order, and lists that would sit better as prose. Having taking Rhodes piano and Mellotron to GA myself, I would challenge that Walsh is particularly noteworthy on either of these instruments.

I'm happy to carry on and review in-depth, as I feel that documenting specific issues that will improve the article anyway are worthwhile, but I believe there is a substantial amount of work to do before this passes.

More comments later. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 16:46, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

What makes archive.today a reliable source?
Is Walsh really that notable as an actor?
"in the late 1960s, he was also a member of the critically acclaimed band, James Gang" - "critically acclaimed" is POV, this is also factually incorrect as Walsh did not leave the James Gang until 1971
"Walsh is ranked at the Number 54 spot in the Rolling Stone magazine's "100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time." - this claim is not in the body
"Walsh joined the Eagles in 1975" ... "Walsh began his solo career in 1973" - this should be in order
The last paragraph has some unsourced quotations
What makes theuncool.com a reliable source?

Early life and education

"In the 1950s it was common practice for Social Security, school registration, and health records for children to take the name of their stepfather" - was it now?
The first inline source goes to a page of radio interviews. The citation should be more specific about which interview and at what location (see The Yes Album for an example of a GA citing audio interviews)

1960s and 1970s

"the James Gang opened a show for the legendary rock band the Who" - POV
"produced such classics as Funk #49 and Walk Away" - POV
"The album was a critical success, but had only moderate commercial success." - repetition
The end of this section is unsourced

1980s and 1990s

The picture of Walsh in 1975 would sit better in the above section
"He also worked with other bands." - do we know what bands?
"In late 1984 Walsh was contacted by Australian musician Paul Christie, the former bassist in Mondo Rock, who invited him to come to Australia to perform with the Party Boys, an all-star group with a floating membership of well-known Australian rock musicians, which included the acclaimed guitarist Kevin Borich, with whom Walsh became good friends" - this sentence is far too long and loaded with POV terms such as "all-star", "well-known" and "acclaimed guitarist"
"their first new studio album in 28 years, Long Road Out of Eden, in 2007. In 1995 Walsh" - why does the narrative jump back 12 years here?

Notable appearances

"Notable" is one of the words to watch. How about "Guest appearances"

Personal life

This section has some unsourced end of paragraphs. I've tagged these with ^{[citation needed]}

Running for Congress

There is a ^{[citation needed]} in this section

Instruments

Having taken The Who to GA and beyond, I can tell you that thewho.net, while full of interesting information, is NOT a reliable source because it is predominantly educated guesswork from fans
As mentioned above, the lists would sit better as prose. Why did Walsh choose those instruments, and what do sources say about them?

I think I'm going to have to stop there. The article has a serious amount of work required, and the sourcing is not particularly great. I would say that Don Felder's book is an essential source to use for this article, although it's obviously from Felder's POV, it's a critically acclaimed book and it will cover significant parts of Walsh's career. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]